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Well My Grandpa Just Bought Me For This My Graduation..

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 Posted 11/24/2005  03:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OldGoldKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just graduated high school, so my grandpa took me to this place in phoenix, called American Precious Metals. Anyone been there before? It's on camelback, the guy seems very honest, and he was very helpful, giving me free magazine cut outs to coins, etc.

He told me about jewelluster, it was a simliar product on coins. He said it does indeed strip off the metal, and you have to be careful when dipping silver coins in them, but gold coins you can leave in all day...

I was surprised by this, since people on this forum told me it was bad idea, but regardless, he was a kind person.

Just to look around, I went to a pawn shop , surprisngly, this pawn shop had TONS of coins. And a huge selection of gold coins, I asked the guy, "How do get these all these gold coins?" and he said "Well, people sell them to us, and we sell them back. That's what a store does.."

Then he went on to tell me why a grade makes a coin so valueable, I wanted to tell him to shut up, because I have read many books on coins and know what he was telling me, and then I tell him the mint started making coins in the very late 1700's, and he said "No, you're wrong. It was the early 1800's.." then he looks it up and says, "oh, I guess I was wrong.."

He tried to sell me a 20 kroner or something like that, I don't remember it much but it had a distinct design, it looked BU, and was made in the late 1800s, it had less than .2 oz of gold in it, and he was trying to sell it to me for 130 dollars.

so I had bad feeling about that place, and went to the other coin shop again

My grandpa was going to give me 100 dollars to spend, on an investment, so I chose a gold coin, and spent it on a 1998 gold soveregn, it had almost a quarter of an ounce in gold, and it was part of a proof set that had been opened. Since it was cracked open, it had no marks, but it wasn't as deep mirror as proofs that are never opened, regardless, it is a nice coin.

He also had a half ounce sovereign, a full ounce, etc.

Just wanted to share this story with everyone :)
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 Posted 11/24/2005  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to say that jewelluster is a bad idea for ANY coins. Even gold coins will get that "dipped" look. You will lose the bright cartwheel luster.

It was nice of your grandfather to get you a coin for your graduation and it sounds like you shopped pretty carefully. Please post a pic of your new coin when you get a chance.
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 Posted 11/24/2005  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Msdcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is also a nice natural patina that forms on coins as they age. This patina is lost when a coin is cleaned. These pieces are usually held in lesser regard by collectors as thieir originality has been somewhat compromised.
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 Posted 11/24/2005  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldGoldKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great, thanks everyone.

yeah I took your advice, I knew jeweluster or that EZstuff was cleaning so I didn't do it.

Surprised there are only 2 responses, I'll post a picture when I get my sleep schedule turned around. Goign to bed at 6 am,w aking up at 6 pm
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 Posted 11/25/2005  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Msdcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol, yes I remember the days of the wacked out sleep schedule too. Got so wraped up in the discussion about coins in my previous post forgot, to congratulate you on your graduation. Anyways congrats on your accomplishment. Are you going on to university? If so you'll have a blast.(when not studying of course)
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 Posted 11/25/2005  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by GoldCoinLover
He told me about jewelluster


And you didn't run out of the shop like your hair was on fire?
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 Posted 11/25/2005  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

quote:
Originally posted by GoldCoinLover
He told me about jewelluster


And you didn't run out of the shop like your hair was on fire?



Why should he
I am sure his girlfriend would love her dipped rings and amulet and gold coin in setting etc
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 Posted 11/30/2005  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldGoldKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I didn't.

He told me it was safe when usd properly. Also my uncle told me it is safe as well. The only people telling me the opposite is on this forum.

He was actually a very kind and knowledge man, and very helpful
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 Posted 12/01/2005  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well if you have E*Z*EST or jewellustre or whatever on your shelves
and if they printed a good untill decembre 2005 on it then there would be an economical insentive to sell cleaners

Also if your cleaner is turning from the original color to another color you would want to sell it before somebody notices

And many people will suss their conscience by saying if I did not sell it to him somebody else would
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 Posted 12/01/2005  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by GoldCoinLover
He told me it was safe when usd properly. Also my uncle told me it is safe as well. The only people telling me the opposite is on this forum.


Want Proof?

Buy a coin from this person, clean it with jewel luster and try to sell it back to him or any other dealer.

Cleaning = less dollars. FACT

Send "any" coin that you clean to PCGS or NGC and watch them BODY-BAG it. FACT

Here are others who feel the same as the knowledgable members on this forum.

http://www.bestcoin.com/Cleaning-Coins.htm

http://www.24carat.co.uk/cleaningcoinsframe.html

http://www.predecimal.com/advice3.htm

http://www.phantomranch.net/prospect/coins_cl.htm

Still need more??

The FACTS are very simple. Clean your coin, and you WILL lose value. Anyone that suggests otherwise is absolutely without a doubt, LYING to you.

So take the two challenges.

Purchase a coin, and submit it to PCGS or NGC, then attempt to sell it to ANY coin dealer. You will learn the lesson that cleaning coins is NOT acceptable in today's market.
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 Posted 12/01/2005  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GoldCoinLover go back to the dealer and buy a bottle of miracles (cleaner)from your dealer and at the same time buy a midgrade coin such as a Franklin half that has a little dirt or crude on it. Take them both home and apply one to the other, cleaner up real good, and take it back to the dealer to sell it back. There's your answer. A serious coin collector WILL NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES purchase a cleaned coin. I won't intentionally but have ended up with a few unknowingly and when I do I bail out on them very very quickly, usually taking a loss, but I don't want them in my collection and believe me when I say I AM NOT ALONE!!!
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 Posted 12/02/2005  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are getting very sound advice here. Mke
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