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1792-2017 $100 Liberty Gold Coin

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That "so many people (on facebook and elsewhere) are hating on this coin" is a symptom of the internet, where negativity is often welcome, sometimes encouraged, and rarely with meaningful consequences for what one says. The beauty of the internet is that anyone can participate. The problem with the internet is that everyone does.

I'm seeing a lot of support in my feeds. Even scanning the Twitter responses shows a fairly even distribution. Personally, I like it.
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Don't get me wrong. I know that the internet festers negativity. It also is a driving force behind formulating people's opinions. All I am saying is that all the negativity is indicative of and will also cause this coin to not sell as well as a more classic design would have sold.
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The stars are a mimic of the ones on the statue of FREEDOM atop the Capitol building but this is supposed to be an image of LIBERTY. I think we are mixing metaphors here.
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Regarding symbolic representations of "Freedom" and "Liberty"...I think it is actually quite brilliant because these concepts are combined here in an elegant and timeless design.
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They did a much better job with the design of the 2015 one; the eagle with the downward wings reverse just isn't as strikingly beautiful as the other one (makes the bird just seem like it's cruising or going down instead of going up). And the obverse looks ugly to me. the huge stars look comical and the 2015 lady liberty was much prettier.
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Regarding the comment about the eagle's downward wings, I think this reverse design is considerably better than the obverse of the 2008 bald eagle silver dollar...that's a far more dissapointing eagle depiction in my opinion. This reverse is very detailed and quite striking compared to that 2008 issue!
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What is the weight and cost of the coin?
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It is a one troy ounce coin, ~31.101 grams and it should follow the same price scale as the 2015 coin. I don't know if the mint has published the pricing grid for 2017 yet but when they do you will be able to look up the cost vs. the spot price for gold. It is possible that the price may be slightly higher than the 2015 coin to account for the proof finish and the edge lettering (which from the pics appears to be on all 3 collar pieces.
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Well I like it.

I just can't afford it.
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I will pass. I absolutely hate that obverse design.
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I wish that instead of a silver medal, there could be a silver dollar version.
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I am all for different variations of LIBERTY, but I just can't get over those stars...on either representation; Capitol Building statue or this coin.
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Regarding symbolic representations of "Freedom" and "Liberty"...I think it is actually quite brilliant because these concepts are combined here in an elegant and timeless design.
I agree.


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I wish that instead of a silver medal, there could be a silver dollar version.
I believe, legal questions aside, releasing it as a medal avoids it directly competing with the ASE.
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jbuck -
regarding this perception of "competition" with the ASE, I just don't understand this logic. Can you elaborate on what the thinking is here?

I mean, if the mint sells ASEs and silver liberty design coins (vs medals), it is still a net profit. Hypothetically, if some customers decide to buy the liberty silver coin (if it was issued as a coin and not a medal),over the ASE, so what?...The US Mint still sells the same number of coins right? I've put in a msg to the mint on this topic, I'll let you know if I hear something.
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regarding this perception of "competition" with the ASE, I just don't understand this logic. Can you elaborate on what the thinking is here?
I was remembering it from this post...

http://goccf.com/t/276739#2344765

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No new legislation for the gold 2015 American Liberty coin was necessary as the Secretary of the Treasury was given authorization to produce gold coins such as the American Liberty series via approved updates to Title 31, Chapter 51 of the US Code; the updates took effect back in 2011.

The same legislation would allow the Mint to strike a different silver $1.00 bullion coin than the current Silver Eagle, but the Treasury Department / Mint is not looking to create an internal competitor to its very successful Silver Eagle program. The Mint, however, does have standing authority to strike national medals (in silver and/or other metals). It made the decision early on, likely based on recommendations for a series of "Liberty medals" made by the Citizens Coin Advisory Committee in 2014, to strike a medal using the same designs as on the gold coin (minus the required coin inscriptions / mottoes).
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