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Now that is just not right on many levels
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I see a lot of Draped Bust, Flowing Hair and Capped Bust dies, as well as a couple of IHCs. The green contraption that lady is working in is supposedly used for edge lettering, which was common for coins in that era.
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 Posted 03/27/2008  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
But more on topic I would also like to know what the red arrow is pointing to. Anyone?
Same here!

I flipped it, but I still cannot ID it...

Wow-!-Gotta-See-This.
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03/27/2008 6:28 pm
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 Posted 03/27/2008  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yinzi50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, I am going to weigh and measure every coin I buy from now on, no matter it is from coin show or ebay. I am going to ask the seller how much it weighs before putting in the 2x2.
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 Posted 03/27/2008  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With any coin of value, it would be a very good idea.
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 Posted 03/27/2008  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gbchaosmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a die crack (will be a Cud) on the rim of the die the red arrow is pointing to?
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I see one of them there naked horseman dies there also
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The pictures came from a European website doing an investigation of the coin counterfeiting operations in China. The arrow was probably pointing to a coin of particular interest (maybe from their home country ?). I've spotted a few suspicious coins on ebay. They all have that "fresh" look to the coin, with a weird patina. By the way, most of these coins will probably be slabbed in fake NGC, PCGS and ANACS holders, so buying a so-called certified coin blindly is not a good idea.
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It's the obv die for a Greek 5 Drachma KM 20 1833 - 45. (These pictures ere originally posted on a Greek coin forum)

KM# 20 5 DRACHMAI
22.5000 g., 0.9000 Silver .6511 oz. ASW Obv: Young head right

Date Mintage F VF XF Unc BU
1833A Proof — Value: 5,000
1833(o) — 1,200 3,000 10,000 30,000 50,000
1833 Proof — Value: 5,000
1833A — 100 250 750 2,500 —
1833 378,000 100 250 750 2,200 —
1844(o) — 500 1,500 4,000 15,000 30,000
1845 — 5,000 10,000 18,000 30,000 —

(this small extract from the Standard Catalog of World Coins should be permissible as "fair use" of the copyright laws. It is a small excerpt, for educational purposes, I' not trying to pass it off as my own work, I'm crediting the source and I am not profiting from it)
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Wouldnt counterfeiters know to make sure the copies were the same weight, making weighing the coins not a good tale tell sign of a sure copy?
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"But more on topic I would also like to know what the red arrow is pointing to. Anyone?"
Right, let's get back to that I was curious too, so I enlarged and flipped the photo so the dies would be more legible.
I think that's a Greek coin, and it looks like Conder has the ID

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03/27/2008 7:37 pm
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If you look closely, there is a Canadian old style small cent die there; what would be worth counterfeiting there? Maybe the 1922, if my memory serves me right?
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dang, thats just sad. Although, maybe I should start to put together a counterfeit set just for the heck of it....nawww.
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Thank goodness I don't see any Australian Coins there
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C.N.D--
I see that now! I could not resolve the date out of the photo, but I'll guess either 1923 or 1925 -- the keys of that series (but even the semi-keys are $$ in BU). I'd like to see a final coin, but I suspect I wouldn't be fooled.
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