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  PCGS slabbed this as 'Genuine Damage C-6 Spiked Chin'. 98 code. 97 is environmental damage. To me, this looks more like a flawed planchet. They didn't give it an actual grade. I'm guessing VF. I'll try and take some better photos once I crack it out of the plastic.
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To me, this looks more like a flawed planchet. I disagree. Unfortunately you can see the porosity on the obverse. Look at the lower right of liberty's chin on the obverse. The reverse is special, no traces and great detail based on the pictures provided. |
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PCGS slabbed this as 'Genuine Damage C-6 Spiked Chin'. 98 code. 97 is environmental damage. oops, I misread your post. |
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The porosity in the right obverse field probably gave this poor girl the detail boot. Even so, I like it.
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Those LDS reverse Cuds are quite spectacular! Unfortunately, it does have a bit of porosity/roughness right of the bust, which is a prime focal area. It's also possible someone tried to do previous repair work in the area, earning the designation. I would split grade it VF30 obverse/VF25 reverse as-is ( TPG grading) Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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On the Spiked Chin variety the field to the right of the bust always has a series of somewhat parallel ridges. You can see a hint of them near the rim. They are obscured in the field by the porosity. Perhaps someone tried to 'clean-up' the lines. I do not know.
It is believed that the Spiked Chin variety was created because a small threaded screw was mashed into the die. The spiked chin is the impression of the head of the screw while the parallel lines are from the threads being mashed and rolled in. It is still a nice coin and has more detail than mine. I would go with VF-30.
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I agree with the details grade.
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FREEDOM!  Cracked this one out with a church-key  More photos to follow. Photobucket is being a pain to navigate at the moment. |
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Scotty - Try to give us at least 48 hours before posting results so everyone gets a chance to check it out.  |
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Given the better pictures I am more inclined toward the planchet flaw assessment than the coin suffering from porosity. Very nice.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
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  I owned all four of the die varieties of the 1804 Spiked Chin Half Cent at one time, but this is the only one I have left. The variety does have a pattern of mint caused marks in the right obverse field, but you coin has some additional ones that are due to environmental damage. I hope my photo has enough detail so show you the difference. One guess is that a screw got between the obverse and reverse dies when they came together. The result was the head of screw put the spike on the chin, and the threads show in the right obverse field. This variety, Cohen 5, was in the press when the obverse die was injuried. That probably cracked the reverse die, which is obvious on this piece. It's just as well that you cracked out your coin. Old copper is "happier" out of the plastic, especially if you live in a humid climate. |
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Thanks for all the replies. Quote:
Scotty - Try to give us at least 48 hours before posting results so everyone gets a chance to check it out. I would normally do this. This coin never had a grade attached to it by PCGS. They simply gave it a 'genuine'. This coin was given a 98 code for damage. If I'm correct, environmental damage is given a 97 code isn't it? It's one of the reasons I picked it up. The other reason being I only paid $125 for it. Quote:
It's just as well that you cracked out your coin. Old copper is "happier" out of the plastic, I agree with this. My first thought when I looked at this coin was, 'this would be a really nice album-coin'. |
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