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 Posted 01/21/2017  7:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 21Maverick21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252694252636

I mean, I know they have to be. But, how has this person sold so many?
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 Posted 01/21/2017  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCM Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it's a poor man's way of getting something that looks like he's always dreamed of finding in his change.
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 Posted 01/21/2017  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vermillion Flycatche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, more than 10 available! What a deal.

Check out this listing for a 1910 S from that seller. If it is real, is "Grinder-treated" recognized as an official grade? That is more realistic than "fine".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910S-LInCO...AOSwZQRYbu7T
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 Posted 01/21/2017  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct ... and the listing itself carefully recognizes theses as 'magnetized copper plated'

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The reason they are reported here almost every day as a great rarity found cheap - or from grandpa's stash - or from Uncle Johnnie or from...
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 Posted 01/21/2017  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this needs to be moved to the reporting fakes section, for the plated 1943 pennies.
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This guy is not doing anything wrong . you have to read the whole page . he states the coin is copper plated and magnetized .
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This guy is not doing anything wrong


Yes, he is.

1) Misleading Title: "1943 US Lincoln Cent!"
2) Misleading Description: "1943 US Lincoln Cent!"
3) Stock photo: "The photo is likely to be of another item that typically has the same year and grade."
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Yes, he is.

1) Misleading Title: "1943 US Lincoln Cent!"
2) Misleading Description: "1943 US Lincoln Cent!"
3) Stock photo: "The photo is likely to be of another item that typically has the same year and grade."



Actually it IS a 1943 Lincoln Cent, modified of course by copper plating, but he says it is so in the Q&A.

As long as the stock photo accurately describes the item and it is identified as such it is truthful.

While there are a lot of people trying to pull one over, this guy is not making wild claims like "Look ere!, Rare Error Coin!". While it might have been better to more distinctly advertise it as altered/plated/whatever, he is being truthful.
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 Posted 01/21/2017  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe this seller is sort of "Up Front" with this coin But what happens when this is coin sold next time?
I Hate this sort of Garbage because at the end of the day someone is going to get Ripped Off and that's a "Given"
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While technically being truthful, someone will end up disappointed at the least, maybe farther down the line. It being copper-plated steel should be in the title and not buried in the humongous paragraph of a description.
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(Also).

It isn't this seller we should worry about, it is the next...
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Right, as long as he is not trying to pass it off as the real deal then I think he should be fine.
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Many are quilty of not reading the whole description of the post and getting something different! I have been quilty of that and now read everything very carefully. Never be in a hurry cause you will certainly make mistakes. Now as far as the seller he explained that is a steel cent and its be copper plated. So what is the basis for the complaint other than one's opinion that it is somehow misleading.
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I learned very early on with auction listings you have to read every word carefully.

Some sellers prey on those that don't.
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Right, as long as he is not trying to pass it off as the real deal then I think he should be fine.



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As long as the stock photo accurately describes the item and it is identified as such it is truthful.


These are both common sense, but they do not agree with the rules that ebay publishes for selling coins on ebay.

ebay prohibits replica coins, and this is a replica of a VERY RARE off metal 1943 bronze cent.

ebay makes no exceptions for if the seller discloses it is a replica or not. Replicas are not allowed.

ebay also does not allow stock photos on raw coins. They list no exception to this rule. ebay requires "photos of the front and back of the coin being sold", and states "stock photos ... aren't allowed".

There may be tons of listings for replicas and listings with stock photos, but that does not mean they are allowed by ebay policy.

Yes, it is a 1943 cent, but it is not the rare bronze/copper version.
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