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What An Uncleaned 200+ Year Old Coin Should Look Like But....

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About 10 years ago I saw and bid on this 1796 Bust Dollar because I loved the originality of it. Damaged? Yes. Cleaned? I didn't think so. Bought from a seller in England who stated it was received in an inheritance. When received, I thought I was crazy in that it looked like he took it to a buffing wheel for an hour or two. After I contacted him he said he had some time before the post office opened so he took some silver cleaner to it. I explained to him how cleaning coins today is not desirable. Now when purchasing coins from non-numismatic people, I always request that they don't clean them. I did sell it for what I paid for it but that poor coin. First 2 pics are from the ebay auction I won.

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 Posted 01/23/2017  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OWWWW.
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Ouch. Did you get him for: Not as described?
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That's a shame. He probably thought he was doing you a favor.

Thanks for posting this. So far I've only bought coins from dealers and other collectors -- but you never know....

It's a warning I won't forget.
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I am getting to the point where I will only buy coins that come in slabs with a grade. Buying raw coins I have been burned so many times. To buy raw coins you really need to look them over and know what you are looking for and at. I bought a 1890CC Morgan and somehow I did not notice rim ding. I way overpaid and this from a LCS. When I sold it back the dealer mentioned the rim ding and said it was about unsellable. How do you like that? I did not like it at all.
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The coin definitely the worse for his cleaning, but it was not that original before he messed with it. The devices were too light for a coin that had not been cleaned of that vintage.

I know that these two coins are in high circulated coin grades, but this is more like what an original 200 year coin should look like.

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A 1798 Small Eagle dollar.

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It is very hard to find truly original Bust dollars and the TPGs give a lot of leeway before they will call a coin cleaned. The first 2 pictures I would think would straight grade and the 2nd two would surely Details. However, it is clear there was some cleaning even in the original two pics.
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Gleek! Scary cleaning, even so.
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EW is right
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Appropriate counter stamp on reverse pic
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He offered to take it back but I found a buyer through Rick Snow who wanted it for the $244.00 I paid for it. And this was back before the days of "Item not as described". It was buyer beware back then. Remember the ebay days of "caveat emptor"?
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Yaak! So sorry but thanks for posting a great example. I think we all learned something from it.
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ouch
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You're definitely better off if you don't deviate from a strict plan to NOT buy any cleaned coins.
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