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Valued Member
United States
384 Posts |
Hey, I've been looking at Seated Liberty dollars and non-detachable ones are all quite expensive (compared to other coins). Why is that? Lower survival? Less mintages? Thanks for your thoughts!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
814 Posts |
Less mintages. Especially when compared against the omnipresent Morgan dollars.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
You are correct low mintage and survival rate. To collect the series is very expensive, so there are not a lot series collectors, but the prices still remain strong because of the rairety. I had considered to collect the series, but I passed because of the high cost. Most collectors buy the coins for their type set.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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What is a non-detachable Seated dollar? I've often found they are way more expensive than I would expect given mintages, especially compared to Bust Dollars. The difference, I think, is that the design is very popular. There is an Liberty Seated Collector Club which probably dwarfs the John Reich Society for shear membership numbers.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
As with most coins the price is usually influenced by popularity versus the number available.
Most of the need for SLD comes from type collecting.
Plus, they actually circulated, unlike the majority of Morgan's, for example.
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Valued Member
 United States
384 Posts |
Lol not detachable I meant non-details
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Plus, they actually circulated, unlike the majority of Morgan's, for example. The Seated dollars did circulate, but they didn't circulate a lot. One reason was the problem with all silver dollars; people found them to be heavy and inconvenient to carry. Most Seated dollars grade VF or better, but Mint State examples, other than the 1859-O and 1860-O which came from a government hoard, are scarce. Another more important reason was their metal content. In 1853 the Congress lowered the weight of every silver coin, from the Half Dime to the half dollar, but NOT the silver dollar and placed arrows beside the date. Apparently there was a misguided notion that maintaining the weight of the silver dollar would help to preserve the integrity of the U.S. dollar overall. All that did was provide one more reason to drive the silver dollar out of circulation. I have no doubt that a fair number of Seated dollars were melted during this period because their melt value exceeded their face value. This is one more reason why the Seated dollars have a number of very scarce dates.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts |
Because of belt buckles 
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Moderator
 United States
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I need two for my Dansco 7070. Those are the last two holes in it. Yes, I certainly wish they were not so expensive.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Remember also that many Seated dollars no doubt went into the furnace along with their Morgan counterparts after passage of the Pittman Act in 1918. Of particular interest, several original bags of uncirculated 1859-O, 1860 and 1860-O dollars turned up during the Treasury release in 1964, which accounts for their (comparatively) low Unc prices today. Imagine the expressions on the faces of the random buyers who received them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
Agreed I need 2 for my type set too. Also a reeded edge half dollar 1836-1839.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Because they are scarce and are needed to finish a type set. Demand drives up the price.
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
Generally, circulation strikes are more expensive than proofs. Some less expensive circulation dates are the 1859-O and 1860-O.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
589 Posts |
Only 6.5 million liberty Seated dollars were minted among 47 separate issues as noted by weimar w. White author. Liberty Seated dollars were not generally saved by the government and worn out and mutilated pieces were melted yearly as were other silver and gold denominations. Author estimate that less than 30,000 presently exist in all conditions.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Author estimate that less than 30,000 presently exist in all conditions. 
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Valued Member
United States
275 Posts |
Neat fact, surprising to a newbie.
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