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Several photos of the same 1909 VDB LWC obverse, with adjustments to position of lights, sharpness, contrast, and exposure compensation.

Questions:
1) Do you see any problems with the photos that my untrained eye is missing?

2) Do you prefer one or more of the photos over the others (and why)? - If it's simply a matter of subjective preference, that's helpful to know.

Thank you!

~ Mark

PHOTO #1 - "Normal", i.e., both lights pointing down (at about 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock), ~125mm from coin. Tv(Shutter Speed) 0.4 / Exposure Compensation: 0. Sharpness: 3. Contrast: 0. Saturation: 0. Color tone: 0. (Saturation and Color Tone are the same for all photos.) Other camera info & settings below (after all photos).

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PHOTO #2 - Left light in 'normal' position; Right light at 2 o'clock, ~400mm away from coin. Tv(Shutter Speed) 0.3 / Exposure Compensation: -1/3. Sharpness: 3. Contrast: 2.

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PHOTO #3 - Left light in 'normal' position; Right light at 2 o'clock, ~400mm away from coin. Tv(Shutter Speed) 1/4 / Exposure Compensation: -2/3. Sharpness: 5. Contrast: 2.

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PHOTO #4 - Right light in 'normal' position; Left light at 2 o'clock, ~400mm away from coin. Tv(Shutter Speed) 1/5 / Exposure Compensation: -2/3. Sharpness: 5. Contrast: 2.

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PHOTO #5 - Right light in 'normal' position; Left light at 2 o'clock, ~400mm away from coin. Tv(Shutter Speed) 1/5 / Exposure Compensation: -2/3. Sharpness: 3. Contrast: 0.

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Camera Info & Settings that were the Same for All Photos
Camera Model Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XS
Firmware Firmware Version 1.0.7
Shooting Mode Aperture-Priority AE
Av( Aperture Value ) 0.0
Metering Mode Evaluative Metering
ISO Speed 100
Image Size 3888x2592
Image Quality Normal
Flash Off
White Balance Mode Tungsten
AF Mode Manual focusing
Picture Style Standard
Color Space sRGB
Long exposure noise reduction 0:Off
High ISO speed noise reduction 0:Off
File Size 2155KB
Dust Delete Data No
Drive Mode Single shooting
Camera Body No. 2840603053

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First pic seems the best. It shows more of the coins details.
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Nothing technical from me, but I like #1.
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First pic seems the best. It shows more of the coins details.


Thank you Mark and fioti!

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I am no pro,all pics look a bit out of focus to me. Try a different color background,18% gray I think is recommended.
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First is best, but the way the light is shining on the coin is not consistent with 11 and 1 oclock. 11 oclock should have lit the top and back of Lincoln's head, while 1 oclock should have lit his forehead, cheek, and top of chin. It almost looks like you're lighting from 2 oclock and 4 oclock, so it's hard to judge.

For settings, what are your sub-settings for the Standard style?
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I am no pro,all pics look a bit out of focus to me. Try a different color background,18% gray I think is recommended.


I will give that a try John - thanks!

If that doesn't work, I'm starting to think it's my eyesight because my pics being out of focus has been a continuous problem. Fortunately, I see my ophthalmologist in a couple of weeks.
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First is best, but the way the light is shining on the coin is not consistent with 11 and 1 oclock. 11 oclock should have lit the top and back of Lincoln's head, while 1 oclock should have lit his forehead, cheek, and top of chin. It almost looks like you're lighting from 2 oclock and 4 oclock, so it's hard to judge.


I'll have my daughters and a friend look at my setup as I admit I am 'spatially challenged' so I might be judging the light positions incorrectly.


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For settings, what are your sub-settings for the Standard style?


Do you mean this?

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You may want to try only one light at 12:00. May also need to filter that one light.
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Lighting is key and with that said photo #1 is the closest. The positions of the lights may be 11 and 1 but it's not balanced as such at the surface of the coin. The 1 position is creating some hot spots and the 11 position barely apparent. What type of lights are you using?
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Just a little optimization of light placement, and a little post-processing, and you're golden.
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What type of lights are you using?


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Just a little optimization of light placement, and a little post-processing, and you're golden.


That's great to hear Ray - I was beginning to get discouraged, but not anymore.

Thanks!

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Actually, there is one more thing...the coin is not level in the pic. LIBERTY should be flat. Pet peeve of mine...Ray
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the coin is not level in the pic. LIBERTY should be flat.


Noted!

It does help if the orientation of coin photographs are uniform - I'm not sure why, but I know my mind has to work harder when a coin is disoriented.

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Just a little optimization of light placement, and a little post-processing, and you're golden.


Will you say more about what post-processing you recommend?

Thanks!

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