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But Wait There's More ! Three Extra Images ! On This 1967 Lincoln .

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This is a 1967 Lincoln Penny with a normal obverse and an abnormal reverse . When I looked at this through my loop I thought it was a Cud but when I looked closer I saw the base of the Lincoln memorial tripled mirrored and inverted . These images all protrude from the field and are not incuse . I don't know what this is called or how it happens on the reverse but it's almost like a capped die or a stack but as you can see the rim of the coin and all of the field around the images are normal .can anyone give me an explanation of what this is?

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I dont know if theres something there or not the images are messing with my eyes. But I can tell you whenever you start looking at stuff under that strong of a magnification you are going to start seeing crazy stuff that isn't really there
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I don't see it, But I have old eyes. Maybe die wear.
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I understand slamnbass and I have done that before but these images are there and to scale they are not smaller or larger and if you look at the pic of the reverse of the whole coin you can see the protrusion . I saw the images with a loupe at 25x and put them under the microscope so I could get clear pics for the thread .
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w/ slamnbass, think your looking too hard to find an error coin, particularly a hitherto unknown kind. Like me, learn to identify what IS a definite seeable error coin under "normal" magnification. I only use scope to verify such as a D/D RPM once I have "suspected" it under a 25X loupe, then I scope it out to compare with the listings on Coppercoins.com. By many means tho, keep searching, keep asking & learning...we all have a looonnngg way too go before we know it all!

Who knows it just maybe an old die clash?
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You should not need any higher power loupe than 14x IMHO.
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I also Inverted the coin to take the pics so they would be easier to see upright would it be better for me to leave them Inverted so you can see them as such
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The close up photos are too close - I cannot tell how they are oriented. The do not make sense to me. The "design" you think is there appears to be pushed up by damage on the coin.
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Here is the coin through the loupe and I changed the lighting so you can see the orientation what I thought was two bases is actually one the third is harder to see without more magnification the mirrored inverted base is at a 45 degree angle from base . I did not think it is a doubles die but was thinking it was material left from a previous strike .

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And another through 10x

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Quite possibly a Feeder Finger Gouge

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Pete2226 wouldn't that cause it to be incuse? because this is not .
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A Feeder Finger Gouge is incuse on the Die and raised on the coin
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Oh ok I understand , I thought you meant a gouge on the coin . That makes sense !
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A Feeder Finger Gouge is incuse on the Die and raised on the coin

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Here it is with color coded markers

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