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Hello I have found in a house I did some reno at a few US coins. 1. 1840 liberty seated silver dollar. 2. 1843 liberty seated silver dollar. I bought a cheap scale and weighted both coins. 1840 weighted 26.6 grams and the 1843 weighted 26.7 grams and I did the magnet test and it was fine. i have some pictures can anyone see if its real or not I did some comparison on ebaythe liberty face looks off on mine thanks for your help              *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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 United States
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I didn't have time to do both coins, but here is your 1840 compared to a known genuine coin, with differences noted. The pole is not straight. The vignette is closer to the rim. The stars, though worn, are still different. EDIT: click on image to get larger view...  Edited by nss-52
02/07/2017 2:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I believe that both are fake.  |
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United States
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The 1840 looks fake, and the 1843 is a bit suspect.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 nss-52 is a wealth of information and should be commended.  to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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IMO the 1840 is more deceptive than the 1843. The 1843 has the classic Chinese knockoff appearance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If those are fake they look pretty good.
Do they ring like silver when you bounce them off of a hard surface?
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Pillar of the Community
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Do they ring like silver when you bounce them off of a hard surface? Don! Don! Don! the begotten method! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They both look fake. The style is off.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Check out the extra metal by the flag of the 1  Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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The first S in States  Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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United States
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Try putting them near a magnet. If they stick, to the black box they go.
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United States
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Both are fake. There are probably more Seated dollars now than in the 1800s if you know what I mean. |
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United States
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Try putting them near a magnet. If they stick, to the black box they go. And if they don't then what? The magnet test is unreliable. The early modern Chinese fakes would fail it but not the more recent ones. (and the early one were usually bad enough that they could be identified easily just by looking at them.) Passing the magnet test doesn't really mean much. |
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Try putting them near a magnet. If they stick, to the black box they go. And if they don't then what? The magnet test is unreliable. The early modern Chinese fakes would fail it but not the more recent ones. (and the early one were usually bad enough that they could be identified easily just by looking at them.) Passing the magnet test doesn't really mean much. I believe the only results mentioned were if they FAIL (stick to the magnet), not if they pass (don't stick). If a "silver" coin sticks to a magnet, I'd say that test has done its duty to prove the coin is a fake. There are many, many tests that prove a coin is a fake but "failing" that test does not prove it is genuine. The purpose of these tests is to eliminate the coin as being genuine. I can't quickly think of a single test that absolutely proves a coin is genuine if it passes, and absolutely proves it is fake if it fails. |
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