1883-O Morgan- New VAM?/ Die Clash?

These are typical clash marks for the eagles neck and your correct that they are from her hair about midway from the ear down to the chin line. On the obverse look in front of the neck and the second hair vee for letter transfer and above her bonnet band for mint mark. On the reverse its below the tailfeathers (E type coins) or the designer "m" between the d and w. It has to have a clashed letter to count as a clashed Morgan VAM. Coins that have clashing but no letter transfer don't get the sub-letter. The exception is the 1886-P VAM-1C (3+2).

I am intrigued by this, usually the clashes start in other areas. Where this does line up with the hair on the reverse, I am concerned about the absence of clashes in the other areas. The areas by the top inside of the wreath should show the clashing first. The lips and back of the hat from the obverse are usually the first clash marks to appear on the reverse. Check to see if they are present. I guess it would be possible that the other clash marks have been polished, but I am not sure.

I would like to see pictures of the full obverse and reverse straight on. If you could post those it would be helpfull.

Here is a die clash diagrahm. I put red circles where you should check the reverse for clashes.

Here are new pictures- I can't get a full obverse and reverse- focus keeps going blurry on me.

I tried to get pictures based on your graph- hope this works-
Since I'm a newbie at this, I don't see anything out of the ordinary besides what I originally found.

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Maybe I'm overlooking something thats really there, but I'm not aware of it?
Thanks for the help

Study that die clash guide real good and remember that your dealing with partial letters here. Take into account the die clash rotation too, that's why some have a partial "I" or "G" in front of the neck. This also changes the position of the mint mark and how much of the last part of "Trust" is showing in the second hair vee above the 1st and 2nd right stars. The lips and back of the cape are only going to show you wreath clashing and we are after letter transfer. On the reverse of your coin, check under the left side of the tail feathers for a partial clashed "E". Consider VAMs 22A and 36A(the most common of the two)and check out the pictures in VAMWORLD for them. This "E" will be slightly slanted and laying on its back, it's from the word "LIBERTY" on the obverse. Take a look at a 1891-O VAM 1A for a real good understanding of how this "E" looks and remember die rotation changes this a bit. Good luck and letters, letters, letters.

OK!

Thanks again for everyone's help on this- I'll be going over this coin obv and rev with a fine tooth comb to see any signs of Letter/Number/ MM doubling etc.
Let you all know if I find anything- I'll post pics asap.

This "clash" under the eagles beak, is not one always seen,
how ever it is well know do to the "CLASHING" overlays as presented above.....
However.....in the case of the 1883-0......."E CLASH"
it is a reality of the clashing lasted from the time the E# was VISABLEY present....and yhe time after the die was repolished the E diassapeared....NOTE that the die cracks are present when the E clash is known......and the die cracks are still present after the re-tooling, BUT NO E is found...
NONE of your pictures looks or shows close ups for the E CLASH area. to determine if there is an E clash present or not....Truthfully this is the true evaluation if it it a 36A
The Vams progression went from the VAM 36, to the "E clash" of VAM 36A, then to... after re-tooling it reverted to the VAM 36..as the E clash is not present......
The descive point where the progression starts and ends lies within the die crack that goes from the tail feathers though the "O" mint mark..... when the crack is obvious,,but does not go entirely from tail feather through the mint mark and back up into the tail feather
much like a you as can be seen on VAM world...THE E CLASH can be present.......in any even if not seen it is a VAM 36, and not an VAM 36A,,,so we now look to your close ups of the mint mark and the area just left and down of the mint mark to see if the E clash is present.....GHood luck! G

Picture 3 (the one with the clashing above cap) looks like you MAY wish to at least check the 1883o VAM 1H listing. The reverse doesn't looks quite as cracked up as the 1H, but it's hard to tell by the pictures.