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Pillar of the Community
United States
1448 Posts |
I like the original patina on this one. I think it is F12 but would love some other opinions.  Second one:   Edited by Steelers72
02/12/2017 2:16 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11898 Posts |
1st coin
Obv F12 - Has weak LIBERTY and shield.
Rev VF20 - Has strong, full shield - nice.
Net F12 - Unfortunate that obv shield holds it back. Other parts of the coin quite nice.
Are you sure you want to settle for a Fine specimen?
2nd coin
Looks like it was stabbed repeatedly with a knife. I would avoid it.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
02/12/2017 2:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1499 Posts |
The first one grades Fine by today's standards. It would have been a Choice VG in times past.
The second one is scratched and has silver corrosion. It's also been rubbed up on the high points probably to remove some of the corrosion. You might call it a "classy filler," but I won't want for much over the melt value.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Certainly agree the first one would have been VG-10 in the old days. Still is to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1339 Posts |
I like the first one as FINE12...The second would likely go DETAILS. IMO....
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Indeed amazing how a coin with only 3 full letters of Liberty showing can be graded Fine.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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1) F-12.
2) I would think VF-20 Details.
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Valued Member
United States
219 Posts |
The first coin is a solid Fine, no more, no less.
The second coin has major issues with scratching on the obverse, almost as if it were dropped onto a hard surface.
I would avoid the second coin, if slabbed it would probably grade out to VF-20 details, scratches.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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First VG10 obverse/F12 reverse, second VG10/F15 reverse, first has better eye appeal but cleaned, second has been cleaned and has major environmental damage and deep hits on the shields obverse and reverse. Neither one of these coins would straight grade at a TPG. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36826 Posts |
1) F-12
2) F-15 details, environmental damage/nics
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2125 Posts |
1st coin VG-10 2nd should just make F-12. Pretty common date. Think you can do better.
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