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Bedrock of the Community
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Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1st coin: G 06/VG 8 Dets, Scratched (Right side of eagle)
2nd coin G 04
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I don't like giving out grades for coins that are missing a full date, even though we all know the dates on these . No offence ,but I probably will never own one unless it's a - - - 6 , bare breast and no stars underneath the Eagle .  |
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United States
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See the PCGS video on grading pre 25 SLQs. They're tough as once the date is gone, it cannot even be G-4. These barely are identifiable by date, so I'd say they are Good.
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Although the rest of coin looks like a Good-Very Good, I too can't give any more than a Good-4 to a coin without a full date. I know about the technical problems with these coins that was corrected in 1925, but for market pricing purposes that would be my grade.
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02/15/2017 08:56 am
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Assigned grade likely depends on the grading service. I had a worn San Francisco quarter I thought might be a 1923-S. I sent it to ANACS and they determined it was actually a 1924-S and graded it G-6. It had less detail than your 1924. If specific grading services limit the grade on partial-date SLQs then I guess you won't get the VG grade if these were submitted to them. Of course, these coins aren't worth the cost of TPG grading. If the dates aren't factored in I think both have VG detail. The scratches on the 1923 are too minor to qualify as defects, especially at this level of wear. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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#1 G04
#2 AG03
The condition of the date determines the grade of these coins, not the detail of the devices.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree, G-04 and AG-03, respectively.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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They're destined for an album, not a slab. :)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Grading standards aren't dependent on where the coin is going to sit or whether you need to sell the coin quickly or whether you are a buyer or seller imho.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Grading standards aren't dependent on where the coin is going to sit or whether you need to sell the coin quickly or whether you are a buyer or seller imho. That's disrespectful, irrelevant, and somewhat accusatory in tone, if not outright insulting. While I don't mind your opinion as to the grades of the coins I posted, kindly leave it at that and save the snide remarks for some other coin forum; they are not welcome here and contribute nothing meaningful to the discussion. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sorry if I gave offense. Cranky tonight.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
02/15/2017 10:42 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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I am at G-6 for both of them.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I got the four quarters in hand today. Acetone bath ensued. The 1924 and 1920 have full four digit dates and the 1918 and 1923 do not. :)
@numismatic_student, none taken. I am strictly a collector for the most part, and a long-time collector, and I don't sell very often, and I would never purposely overgrade a coin for the intent of selling it. I've been at this for 30+ years so you can believe me when I say that my grading standards are far from loosey-goosey, or just look at my posts over the last couple of years. ;)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Adam, I appreciate all you have done to help me here and I think I was lashing out because of other things going on in life. I appreciate your grace throughout this somewhat ugly episode and I am embarrassed for what I said. It wasn't you, it was me not being at my best.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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