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1909-S & 1931-S. Can Someone Help Choice Grade This?

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I am only uploading a pic of the 1931-S rn because someone messaged me to buy it but I want help choice grading it to find a price range, but I'd also like my 1909-S choice graded, both are at least AU the 1931-S may be BU Brown but I'm not for sure because of Lincoln head and face, the 1909-S may be BU it has some lamenation errors on the back and full leaf details but Lincoln looks kinda worn, I'm wondering if I should try to sell that or get it graded with the error noted to? Please give best personal choice grades! Thank you and I will consider offers if anyone is interested!

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Detail on the picture is not real sharp, I would say xf40 or so as wear on wheats and jaw/face drops it down from au, but I am not an expert...
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Left wheat band is separated - ?
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That 31S is not a choice BU or even AU. It has been cleaned some time before, wear pattern on reverse letters show many knicks and rounding EF40 on that side. Obverse also shows wear and flattening all along bust, weak strike (?) on motto & LIBERTY, heavy marks in field, this side gets maybe VF30. Coin total=VF-35. Sorry for the bad news, but that coin isn't premium gov't issue! Be careful, if someone's telling you the AU/MS pricing...you should walk away.
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Here is my 1909-S

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I also noticed that the left wheat ear on the 1909-S seem's to have the last line separated as well, I wonder if it's just the pics or errors I'm a look at it under a magnifying glass tomorrow night
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to CCF :) This really should go in Modern Coin Grading but I'll respond anyway since you're new and it's here!

The 1931-S is original, uncleaned, XF40, and has a die chip on the left wheat ear. It could stand some Verdi-Care treatment.

The 1909-S may have been cleaned, based on the streaky colors of the reverse, and it appears to grade around VF20 at most, with a below-average strike. It is nowhere near AU. The photos make it very difficult to judge.
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w/ Paralyse.

Looks like a VF due to wear all over . Wheat ear tips are indistinct, loss of details on coat, hair, beard. It has been cleaned and looks harshly at that and has been buffed/wizzed to remove scratches giving it the appearance of fake mint luster.

Call it VF-20 Harshly cleaned, details. Need much better pix to determine any variety of S mintmark.

Sounds like your seller/advisor may be a schmuck...












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Your 31S at best is EF-40/45 and the 1909S pictures are not really good enough to tell, sorry.
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I agree with shafta I see a mid VF 1931 S, pics aren't greatest. 1909 S really difficult to see especially the reverse, a shot in the dark would probably be a vf20 similar to what others have chimed in. If you could provide more detailed focused pics then we can give you a better consensus of the grade and originality of the coins.
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Agree EF-40 on the '31-S and VF-20 details (cleaned) on the '09-S.



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