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March 2017 RCM Releases

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 Posted 02/24/2017  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It would be great if it might attract a whole new generation of people interested in the hobby, was my point.


They won't. That is my point. Beginning mostly in 1992, the Mint has produced many 'unique' circulation coins and the hobby has steadily declined. 2017 won't change that. Pardon the pun.

Not to belabour the point but the 1967 and prior coins to a very large extent where collected (and melted) for silver. It has nothing to do with the designs or 'scarcity'. Of course many people saw what at the time and up until 1992 where very unique designs and collected them, but to the vast majority, they were 'collected' because the intrinsic value of the silver they contain.






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 Posted 02/24/2017  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They won't.


You can't know that, the 2017 coins have barely begun to trickle out. The negativity towards the 150th anniversary coins surprises me, coming from a group of numismatics most of whom probably don't even collect current coin.

Even though the vast majority of us began by collecting.....current coinage.


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 Posted 02/24/2017  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redzapsid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would appear that these coins are being minted to demand for gift sets etc, and they will after all be in circulation. The average person that stumbles across a glow in the dark $2 coin may keep it but I doubt they will with the second or third they come across.
Some people will collect them but they will NEVER be like the 1967 series. People were aware that coins were no longer going to be made with silver and also why they weren't.
Also, the '67 series was the first time that a special design was used on all denominations. The simplicity in the design, helped them stand out in a fist full of coins. With special designs on many $2, $1, quarters and even the volunteer dimes, these will likely be just another coin to someone that doesn't already collect coins. I lost track of how many designs could be found in Canadian circulation coins, but it's got to be dozens upon dozens.
I think the Victory nickels are the coolest because of the coded message around the rim
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 Posted 02/24/2017  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add headlessone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In '67 people may well have been aware that silver would not be the coin material of the future. Hard to say now, perhaps, how significant that awareness was at the time to shaping their behavior or attitude toward collecting or hoarding coinage. Hindsight bias may make it seem obvious to us now that they 'must' sense it was a smart time to start their collecting habit. I was born that year so the earliest recollection I have of old guys telling me about the silver in coins was in the '70s. My memory of it was it was important to them. But silver is beneath gold, and copper beneath silver, and steel beneath nickel, or whatever -- my point being that future coinage may be polymerized camel dung with pretty pictures painted in watercolour if you spring for the fancy set. And when money is digitalized there will be no shortages of it to spring with. Unless the government needs to moderate the pace of inflation, of course. Thanks for the interesting and interested ideas expressed here. My cuppa.
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 Posted 02/25/2017  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I feel the annual coin sets from the RCM are overpriced. One can get all the coins from rolls. Roll fresh coins look just as good as what you would get from a set.



TheForce, I think you intended to reply to a different thread so I'm moving my response here.

New rolls of coins from banks are definitely not easy to come across. If you know of a reliable Cdn source, you're very fortunate. Or maybe you buy rolls from a dealer but then you're paying additional costs as well.

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 Posted 02/25/2017  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As for the sets, I want to add, that this is standard RCM price - near CAD 19 - 24.

People who buy these sets (I mean, Gift sets or Uncirculated set), pay money not for the coins only, but for the proper packaging. Nowhere, in no country, the "Mint coins set" will not be priced close to face value of the coins.....

And surely, if someone wants the "coins only" - the roll hunt will be the best deal. (Just one have to take in account the time spent for it, gas spent...etc)
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 Posted 02/27/2017  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin-4-fun was able to secure for loyal customers!

Not available (yet) in RCM:

2017 Canada Ornithomius Dinosaur Skeleton $20 Pure Silver Antique Finish Coin

**Rimless. Bold looking display.
I think the people who in this theme, will appreciate the coin, really.

For checking out the picture and / or pre-order, please visit Coin-4-fun ebay page.
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 Posted 02/27/2017  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And surely, if someone wants the "coins only" - the roll hunt will be the best deal. (Just one have to take in account the time spent for it, gas spent...etc)


I speak from experience in choosing why to buy Uncirculated Sets as opposed to coin sold as UNC on ebay. Hunting down new rolls, not interested.

Unless the buyer knows the ebay seller very well, in my opinion it's just not worthwhile even if one spots a good deal. I'm certain that unscrupulous ebay sellers just pick circulated coin out of pocket change and of course the current years coin still looks shiny and bright. Then it's sold on ebay as "uncirculated, fresh from a roll". Who's to know, right. Then a couple years later the fingerprints and contaminates begin to do their thing, resulting in a dingy looking coin.

The price of Uncirculated Sets to me is much like insurance.
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 Posted 02/27/2017  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For those waiting to see the new SD, it's on ebay.

Most of the others released to high level MC today are there too. mario95coin.

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02/27/2017 3:27 pm
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 Posted 02/27/2017  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver dollar has special design, double dated as well.
Surely 150-Anniversary related, but the concept and design are not as simple as the previous Silver Dollar.

Uncirculated set - not bad item
I feel that the best to have Classic set + Anniversary set.

The Glass Dogbane Beetle coin.
Interesting, that the colors on the add changed for the beetle - from the 'greenish brown' to the 'green and red'. The initial coloring was better imo.
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 Posted 02/27/2017  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree Silveroid, the dollar is a complex design especially compared to the previous one this year.

It may grow on me I guess but it's not my favourite. Maybe selective gold plating will help.

And yes it is double dated 1867-2017 not 1967 as previously reported. That makes more sense too.
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All new releases are now appearing on RCM website. I am platinum prestige.

What other levels can view all March releases?
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02/27/2017 4:21 pm
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 Posted 02/27/2017  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could figure out what is hanging over and down from the shoulders of the female figure on the SD. It almost looks like a second pair of arms!

If anyone with access to the full description of the coin on the RCM web site can shed some light on it, I'd be grateful.

What I do know is that 2017 is shaping up to be an expensive year for a SD collector: two selectively gold-plated SDs in silver proof sets @ $229.95 each and two unadorned SDs @ $59.95 each for a total of $579.80 - and it's only the March release!

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 Posted 02/27/2017  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Proof Nut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ordered three of the $34.95 sets before I realized I could get them cheaper at CAC and that the RCM was going to put out an additional 7 piece set at $26.95. Not interested in paying an additional $5 for a fancy cardboard display.

Personally I think the collector card will not be a big seller.

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02/27/2017 5:36 pm
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The SD is complex. What is background behind the design?
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