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Any Rhodium "Hostages" In Here?

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ok, we all know that there is nothing such as "white gold". gold is not white. it is just a term used by jewelry outlets to explain why their gold ring is silvery... it is a yellow gold ring overlaid with rhodium, in most cases. in some cases, the rhodium is spread so thinly over the ring and the gold starts to show through that the owner must have their ring or whatever "overlaid" again with rhodium.

ok, if one checks kitco, you may be amazed that rhodium just a few years ago was going for about $10,000 an ounce! then it took a quick and sudden nosedive down to about $1,200 an oz., and now even lower than that today.

ok, here is the point... is there anybody here that bought rhodium on its way up or its way down, never suspecting that it would noseplant? I would imagine that several people bought it at anywhere from $2,000 to $9,000 an oz, especially on its rise.

ok, for example, if you bought it at $4,000 an oz, you are most likely not to take such a dive, as rhodium is like at about $800 an oz currently. I bought some while rhodium when it was at $1,200 an oz, in a bar shape when they finally became available... very brittle, but better than the powder form it was only available before... "hey, want to see my rhodium? yah, I know it looks like a bag of dirty grey powder, but...

so do any of you who bought it high while it was rising hope that it will rise again? I have 10 ozs myself, in 5 oz bars... dreaming of when it would be worth $100,000 again, not the roughly $8,500 it is today.

ok, so maybe I am not the greatest invester, but rhodium will have its day again... I hope... mike

here is a chart of the raise and nosedive...

http://www.kitco.com/charts/historicalrhodium.html




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What else is it used for besides overlay?
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As an aside, I understand white gold to be an alloy (usually with nickel) and is rhodium plated to avoid skin allergies from the nickel alloy.
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Biggest use for rhodium is in catalytic converters. It is an active catalyst, converting nitrogen oxides from automobile exhaust into nitrogen and oxygen. Presumably if greater production of converters is required (say, from increased consumer demand for new cars) the rhodium price will go up.

I bought a single 1-oz bar for around $980 so I guess I'm not a hostage as such but I would welcome a return to the high price of a few years back.
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I bought an ounce at around $900, so I'm up a bit. The premiums are quite high for those looking to buy, its rare that any is for sale near spot price. They have fallen a bit due to the fact that Baird is no longer the only manufacturer of 1 ounce bars, Pamp Suisse also makes them now too. The premium per ounce is still around $100 an ounce though.
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I recall that Paul McCartney was given a rhodium record in the late 70's to honour him as the top selling songwriter of all time. Rh is apparantly 1000 times rarer than gold, so one would think that at 1200 an ounce right now it's a bargain.
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In the event of a huge spike, where would you sell this?
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There are a few dealers that regularly publish buy prices for rhodium, I myself would sell it on ebay if I owned any at the time of spike
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...white gold to be an alloy (usually with nickel) and is rhodium plated...


That's the cheap version of white gold.

There is a more expensive 19k version of white gold made with an alloy of gold & palladium. The gold/palladium alloy has a stable "white" color that doesn't need to be plated with rhodium & doesn't turn yellow over time.

Right now Platinum is the new white gold for jewellers, since it's currently cheaper than gold.

It would be cool to have a rhodium ring though...
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