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You Vs. PCGS: 1949 Dollar

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 Posted 03/05/2017  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice coin. What do you think ICCS would grade it?
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 Posted 03/05/2017  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
MS67
Never would have guessed from those pics.
You vs. TPG type threads are always at least 50% guesswork.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I was originally going to post PCGS ms65 and ICCS ms64.

My main reason was the small blemish on the high point of the cheek.

For all my preaching about ICCS only grades based on fields, well sometimes, as in the 1949 dollar, they key in on the high point of the cheek and it has to be flawless for ms66 and higher.

Maybe it's a whole lot nicer in-hand, but going from the picture, I would say absolute maximum grade is ms65.
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the high point of the cheek is more exaggerated in the pictures, like the previously mentioned spots..it isn't rub or anything but just a high point that isn't completely struck..not uncommon on these actually. and yes, it is LEAPS AND BOUNDS nicer in hand a gorgeous coin to say the least..i met with Apitrix earlier today actually and he can vouch for how this thing is in hand(he posted his reply before we met up and before he knew the grade).

@aghoarder I think it would get a MS-67 from ICCS I sent some coins out for ICCS and considered cross grading it but figured i'd save that for a different submission when I have more to cross grade.
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The coin is very nice in hand, looks almost PL, I am assuming one of the first strikes based on the detail apparent in this coin in hand. I believe that the strong strike helped this coin get the high grade, and the point on the cheek is not as noticeable in hand, only under certain lighting. Coin has a beautiful tone to it, much nicer than these photos entail. I would say the coin is a PCGS67, and depending on how ICCS is feeling, it would easily get a ms66, and a potential 67 depending on how picky Brian would be about the weak point on the cheek. All in all, quite a beautiful coin!
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Why would you want to cross-grade a hard-slabbed PCGS 67 into a soft-plastic ICCS? It is the least valued silver dollar that Canada made and not worth ($$$-wise) a second opinion that well could be lower.
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ICCS will cross-grade a PCGS coin without removing it from the slab. They simply print an
ICCS tag with the pertinent information plus the PCGS certification number on it. I think it is a
great way to go depending on the situation. Case in point would be Dollarman's recent 1958
PL dollar. With an ICCS cross-grade he would get the Cameo designation it deserves.
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Why would you want to cross-grade a hard-slabbed PCGS 67 into a soft-plastic ICCS? It is the least valued silver dollar that Canada made and not worth ($$$-wise) a second opinion that well could be lower.


when you cross-grade a coin, like said in the post above, you get ICCS's opinion and get to leave it in the slab.

i don't think it's the least valued, it's a popular coin from the 40's and a one year commemorative, I've never seen these sell for melt like other silver dollars do..although it's quite possible you meant it's one of the most common of the KG VI series, which would be true.

i think it would be worth it..i got this coin for what I think is a fair price and it'd never have come home with me if I wasn't fairly sure it would meet ICCS's and my standards for the grade.
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