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Valued Member
United States
458 Posts |
Well, my 2 cents worth is we can leave it as a thread. Already we have had many topic on cleaning items. Altho many did not have the word "cleaning coin" in the topic, I will assume that if you type in "cleaning" in the search section, all the topics with the word(s) clean will show up, even if its the body of the thread. So I voted leave it as a thread. 'sides, we wanna discourage cleaning of any coin at all cost, unless it is already damaged, in which case then, all you should try to do is save and preserve what is left...  1 final point, there are many different types of coin metals, we have had many discussions already that anything you do WILL damage the coin. Have I covered it all?
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Valued Member
United States
75 Posts |
An ongoing and informative thread would be most helpful, all ideas welcome and accepted for debate.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
756 Posts |
I voted for a thread. I have some coins that aren't worth THAT much more than their face value and wouldn't mind cleaning them up for my EYEs only.
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Valued Member
United States
253 Posts |
although I dont condone the dipping of coins nor attempts to tone them I have "cleaned" with both denatured alcohol and acitone to remove grease and grime. information is better than ignorance
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Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
Well Carl you got me there! I don't own a metal detector so that issue never entered my mind. I have used a detector in the past so I know that the dirt and ect... MUST come off the coin, if indeed it will come off.
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Rest in Peace
United States
3730 Posts |
I would vote for a thread, however I have not been able to vote in the last two or three polls.
Am I doing something wrong?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
438 Posts |
quote: Originally posted by national dealer
Why not use the TPG standards? Because whether we like it, agree with it, or even condone it, we all play in their world.
I can assure you that we don't all play in their world. As for cleaning, well frankly it has it's uses. Dealing with ancient and medieval as I do it's less about whether it has been cleaned, but more about has it been cleaned well and how does the coin look? More critical still is the ever present fact that a coin has to be identifiable, if it's just been dug up then it's got to be cleaned. Cleaning a coin though just to improve it's aesthetic qualities for the collector market, even an acetone dip, that I disagree with. If you don't like, then don't buy it. If you already own it and you can't live with that speck then sell it.
Edited by Ætheling 02/04/2006 4:56 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7629 Posts |
Well, technically "cleaning" is anything that moves metal around ont he surface of a coin. I do not condone that at all. What I do agree with is carefully removing contaminants and greases off of coins to conserve them, and there are a number of time tested methods for doing this without harming the coins.
I go so far as to say that anyone who thinks that leaving ALL coins exactly as they are without consideration to their current state could well be doing more harm than good to the future of the hobby. If we weren't removing PVC from coins because of the nasty coin supplies some people insist on using, we likely wouldn't have very many decent coins any more because the plasticisers and other gunk on the coins would be eating them away.
With this subject in mind, it is of paramount importance to know what you're talking about before jumping into the advice columnist slot telling people what your opinion is. It is likely that telling them to use this or that concoction or telling them to leave the coins alone could do them far more bad than good.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
590 Posts |
We need a place for info on coin cleaning for the new collectors.
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Valued Member
United States
177 Posts |
some coins need to be cleaned, for example, to remove pvc, and there will never be a detailed enough guide on cleaning to prevent people from having more questions. there should be a forum.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
I learned everything I ever needed to know about cleaning from Google. Not here. Although I share what I know when asked, and I don't hew to the "never clean a coin" line, I do not support the idea of legitimizing the process by giving it any sort of dedicated database.
Whenever such information is put out, it should be accompanied by a real-time warning of the ramifications of any sort of alteration of the surface of a coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1703 Posts |
quote: Originally posted by Mike
I see no harm in having a place to discuss this very diifcult subject, as long as there is a clear statement about the general downside of cleaning coins. Mike
I agree. I would like to see a sticky about cleaning. Not as a tutorial but as information as to detect cleaned coins,the different types of cleaning and what the different cleaning terms mean as,whizzed,dipped,cleaned and the possible effect it has on the value of the coin.As a user of a metal detector,I agree there are times when you have to clean some of your coin finds.
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Valued Member
United States
397 Posts |
I can understand the feelings about cleaning coins. I agree on most, however, there are times you HAVE to clean. What about all the gold from shipwrecks like the Atocha. They are "cleaned" of all the encrusted stuff, but I would LOVE to have a few of them, wouldn't you? I have never heard that the value of those coins were decreased by cleaning. If done PROPERLY, and I think that may be the big IF, I think it is acceptable. MM 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
590 Posts |
The leading vote getters are pretty much the same thing.
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Member
United States
3242 Posts |
If you dip your coin in alcohol,no rubbing is that cleaning or just getting the germs off your coins ? Not bu or copper coins,something like bank rolled you know are au/ef coins as nickels or clad dimes is that cleaning?
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