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Moderator
 United States
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Poll Question
Every coin forum on the internet gets multiple questions about cleaning. There are views on both sides of this issue. Should our Coin Community forum post a sticky or have a individual thread to address this issue for all to easily access? Results
| We need a place for information on cleaning. |
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31% |
15 Votes |
| There is information out there let people search. |
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4% |
2 Votes |
| Information on cleaning should be a sticky. |
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16% |
8 Votes |
| Information on cleaning should be a thread. |
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29% |
14 Votes |
| We don't need to do anthing about cleaning. |
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14% |
7 Votes |
| The moderators should review all past post on cleaning and combine the "best responses both positive |
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6% |
3 Votes |
Poll Status:
Locked
Total Votes: 49 Counted
Last Vote:
07/26/2006 2:17 pm rggoodie
aka Richard
"catch em doing something right"
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Pillar Of The Community
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rggoodie, You left one out! We need to advise the WORLD to NEVER clean a coin under any circumstances. If is is worth the effort then professional conservation would be the only acceptable route to take. NEVER clean coins at home with any products currently available!
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
2078 Posts |
I voted for a Thread
There is a Flemish Belgian forum were dozens of cleaning methods are discussed which I find very informative
Pro and cons and predictions of success or no success are given
If you have decided to clean a coin (preserve a coin) you should have the best advise available (not cleaning it in the first place )
and if decided to go ahead and clean then you should know the series of methods available from the most gentle to the absolutely to be avoided
I know of no country outside the US that will offer a preservation of coins option
Edited by ageka
12/01/2005 09:54 am
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Valued Member
Netherlands
309 Posts |
Terry,
i disagree with you, in SOME sircumstances cleaning has to be done, for example detector findings have to be cleaned, otherwise identification is not done.
But in manny situations, people better don't clean coins, it depends on what cind of situation the coin is.
Zink coins can be cleaned, and preserved in case of zinkpest, so the coin is not longer fading away.
Greetings, Carl
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
I voted we dont need to do anything about cleaning,, the information is avilable as people ask .
There are past threads which are archived,that can be accessed.
Rick
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2724 Posts |
There should be a standard place with all the information, but does not need to include any place to post. Just list the facts, and allow people to decide for themselves.
A link to NCS should be placed, and maybe the top 4 or 5 cleaners available on the market.
Rules should be listed as to when a coin should or should not be cleaned, and it should be suggested that a dealer or well versed collector view the coin prior to any cleaning.
It should also state that ancient coins fall under different rules. Maybe add some facts that 90% of the older coins have seen some cleaning and that fact does not make it OKAY to clean coins today.
It is clear that "cleaning" is taboo in today's market. We need to emphasize that fact.
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Forum Mom
United States
5877 Posts |
I'm kind of on the fence about this. While cleaning is a very popular topic, I don't want it to appear that we, as a group, condone or support it. There are accepted methods for certain coins and as many different opinions about it as there are members here. How do we decide which opinions and statements hold more merit than others? This is an area that is based, for the most part, on individual preference. I'm very curious to see how everyone votes and comments on this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2724 Posts |
Why not use the TPG standards? Because whether we like it, agree with it, or even condone it, we all play in their world. |
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
2078 Posts |
I posted this question on all german and american coinforums How do I get red spots off a 9999 gold coin without damaging the coin The answer I got was that the german mint replaces their coins by new coins when you got the original purchase invoice But these were numbered and limited editions ( you get my drift ) And what about all those french Monnaie de Paris coins less then 3 years old with red spots that are sold on ebay ; why not send them back to MDP ? A german university determined that the red spots were surface silver contamination and that the normally black silver sulfide looks red on gold Energiedispersive Röntgenanalyses shows that the 9999 coins under the red spots are nearly pure Silver [Ag (84%); Cu (10%); Au (5%)]. http://www.emuenzen.de/forum/euromu...rote+fleckenhttp://www.goldseiten-forum.de/thre...rote+fleckenEdited by ageka
12/01/2005 1:43 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
2884 Posts |
I see no harm in having a place to discuss this very diifcult subject, as long as there is a clear statement about the general downside of cleaning coins. Mike
Edited by Mike
12/04/2005 12:45 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1247 Posts |
I'm vehemently opposed to cleaning coins except to remove PVC. But I voted that the information should be posted because new collectors tend to want to clean their coins. And I'm presuming that both pro and con will be represented. And hopefully new collectors will be advised that there is probably a 99.99999% chance they will screw up whatever they try to clean.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
2078 Posts |
Depends what you call cleaning My american friend puts all his gold coins in acetone before submitting them to a TPG in order to get the finger grease off He never ever got one bodybagged |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1247 Posts |
That to me is not cleaning but rinsing. I do the same thing but usually with denatured alcohol. Then I hit them with air-duster. I used to use acetone but I think I can get the same results with alcohol which doesn't smell as nasty.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1203 Posts |
It would appear that ageka has ask the key question, "Depends on what you call cleaning"
And Longnine's response "that to me is rinsing"
These are exactly the topics that could be covered in a thread, and the person needing the information could have a place to research for answers.
I know that it sometime gets old reading and answering the same question over and over as it is now presented. I would much prefer a songle place to find the answers, no matter what they are.
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New Member
United States
14 Posts |
I think cleaning is fine as long as you're not defacing or scraching the surface of the coin. I never clean my coins unless it's just loose dirt that can be rinsed off.
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Rest in Peace
United States
2684 Posts |
While I voted for cleaning as a thread, I would also have voted for a sticky but the poll doesn't permit multiple choices. For some posters, their cleaning question is a basic "How do I?" and the responses are a basic "Don't do it!". This could be covered as a sticky. On the other hand, some cleaning questions are on specific coins and require unique answers which would not normally be covered in a sticky. I came down on the side of separate threads since new members are not necessarily familiar with stickies. Further, new members are often new to numsmatics and might not know enough about the subject to do a Google or CCF search or to ask the right question. Even further, judging from the diversity of poll responses, we certainly don't have a consensus because of the complexity of the subject.
Fred
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Posted 12/01/2005 09:45 am
