Hejaz 20 Piastres 1334//9 (1923) *struck Using Extremely Rusted Dies*

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dulitu New Member Netherlands 36 Posts	Posted 03/06/2017 11:20 pm Hi all! I have a 20 piastres dated 1334//9 from Hejaz, that was struck using extremely rusty dies (just as Krause says about this issue). After my research, I couldn't find any other example like mine. The closest I found was the one from Stephen Album Auction 17 - lot 1649. Some marks caused by rusty dies are exactly the same on both coins. So I assume the same rusty die was used to struck both coins, however the parts marked with "?" on my coin makes me wonder what happened there? The die was recut for some reason? I haven't seen it on any other Hejaz coin.. Any thoughts? Also, I found some info online suggesting that these coins were most probably struck at Heaton Mint in Birmingham (and not in Mecca as the legend reads). But the quality of this coin cannot even compare to other coins produced by Heaton mint.. If anyone has any ideas or could suggest some useful literature about Hejaz coinage, would be highly appreciated! Edited by dulitu 03/06/2017 11:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Pertinax Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2133 Posts	Posted 03/08/2017 09:10 am Where were the coins minted ? I've noticed similar marks on Egypt coins of 1917 and Palestine coins of 1927 but I had assumed they were dirt. Report this Post to the Staff
colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 03/08/2017 1:01 pm ? = HMMM ... looks like some form of slide doubling or skidding misalignment error in a counterclockwise fashion with the movement of the anvil die due to the impact and force of the hammer die or vice versa. Vice versa? Yes that is why I do not collect India coins. LOL. What is the obverse? JPL Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5172 Posts	Posted 03/08/2017 2:03 pm Quote: HMMM ... looks like some form of slide doubling or skidding misalignment error in a counterclockwise fashion with the movement of the anvil die due to the impact and force of the hammer die or vice versa. Vice versa? Yes that is why I do not collect India coins. LOL. and wanted to post something similar, though you seem to have a better grasp of terminology. Report this Post to the Staff
dulitu New Member Netherlands 36 Posts	Posted 03/10/2017 5:16 pm Quote: ? = HMMM ... looks like some form of slide doubling or skidding misalignment error in a counterclockwise fashion with the movement of the anvil die due to the impact and force of the hammer die or vice versa. Vice versa? Yes that is why I do not collect India coins. LOL. What is the obverse? JPL wow, thanks for the info! I just read about slide doubling / skidding misalignment and it looks like it indeed! Quote: Where were the coins minted ? I've noticed similar marks on Egypt coins of 1917 and Palestine coins of 1927 but I had assumed they were dirt. The inscription on the coin itself says "Struck in Mecca", however I read that they were most probably minted in Birmingham at Heaton Mint. The trial strikes for these coins were made there. So I don't know for sure if they were minted in Mecca or Birmingham... Edited by dulitu 03/10/2017 5:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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