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 Posted 04/13/2008  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bobbi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must have missed it - is there something special about 1986P?
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 Posted 04/13/2008  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toniblab to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have no idea why they are good check the dealer gray sheets most of the 80's coins made as a very good premium value.i sold a 1983 p roll of nickels for 56.00 and a 3 rolls of the 1986 p dimes rolls at 92.00 each.and all was ebay sales
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 Posted 04/13/2008  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bobbi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Holey moley, I've just been chucking them in my rejects bucket. Seems so strange that every time I decide what I want to save or not, something pops up and tells me that I really don't want to reject that after all. Being so new at this, I make all kinds of mistakes. Like my first box of pennies I had all ready to return to the bank after extracting a few I wanted. Then I read about the copper thing. Thankfully I hadn't actually taken them back yet. So I'll go through them again.

Then the same with nickels - I thought I knew what I wanted, and then changed my mind. I had already taken that box back, though.

We live and learn. The longer I read this forum, the smarter I'll get. I enjoy what I'm doing, and I love the thrill of searching through a box, roll by roll, hoping that the next roll will have "the" coin I've been waiting for all my life, so to speak.
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 Posted 04/13/2008  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find about 15-20 per roll...
So I guess that makes 35% copper around here.
Pretty consistent, however I have started to see 'Wanted' ads around here for "1982 and earlier pennies".
So there are folks getting wise and hoarding right here.


Edit:
Quick question to folks buying boxes:

How much are boxes of pennies?

How do I tell if they are going to be new pennies, corporate/fed re-rolls, or customer (self) rolls?

Thanks
Dave
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04/13/2008 1:12 pm
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 Posted 04/13/2008  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bobbi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A box of pennies is $25. I have no idea how to know what type of coin I'll get. I hear tell that some people request such and such, but since I wouldn't know what to ask for, I haven't done that. A box of nickels is $100. I really would rather work with them because I think pennies are about as dirty as dirty can get. I get so grungy working with pennies. Nickels aren't quite that bad, but still bad enough. I hadn't had a cold or a virus in months until I started working with coins. I make sure I wish my hands after having a go at it. But I still love it.
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I hadn't had a cold or a virus in months until I started working with coins. I make sure I wish my hands after having a go at it.


Just to reassure you--it's highly unlikely you'll catch something from boxed coins. The copper in US coins is pretty effective against microbes, and most have a very short life span outside the human body anyway. Similarly, the copper content in the ink used in banknotes negates the possibly of disease transmitted through US currency.
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 Posted 04/13/2008  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bobbi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, now see - something else I learned from this forum. :-)

Toni mentioned the dealer gray sheets, so I googled it. Guess one needs a subscription to know what info is in there.
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 Posted 04/13/2008  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rainman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not been posting lately because Ive been spending my spare time going through my pennies. Saved about $160. in pennies over the years. Have $20. left to sort. Man this is hard work. Have rolled all the zinc and put all the 1982 in a can and all pre. 82 in another can. Saved some of every year for a set. Only found two 62P (hard to fine). Put aside 83 & 84 for error hunt. Will give a total count when done.

Seeking: Light at the end of the Pennie rolls.


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I do this more as a hobby than anything right now but it can be profitable down the road:

1) Some feel that copper cents will trade like junk silver does today
2) With the new designs coming out for the penny next year, there is expected to be renewed interest in the LMC's like what happened for the State Quarters
3) It's a good way to find wheat cents and some even find Indians
4) The worst case scenario if the melt ban doesn't get lifted is that you spent some time and gas getting these. They are still going to be worth face value.

As far as obtaining them, I am friendly with the tellers at the branches I go to. At one I have a standing order of 2 boxes a week and at the other I order as I need to. My biggest order was only something like 4 penny boxes and 2 nickel boxes, but some people do 50 a week.

As far as sorting goes, some are using the Ryedale machine or some people have multiple machines. There is one guy in Illinois approaching 3 million total copper cents, and another I know of in Michigan that is saving roughly 100,000 of them per month. Storage space and weight is a huge consideration so keep this in mind and plan accordingly before jumping into it.

For unloading the unwanted zinc cents, I set up a new bank account at a credit union that has a self serve coin counter. It took me awhile to find one but it's nice as the only time I have to bother anyone is when I dump more than $50 worth at a time or when the inside bag gets filled and they have to change it. I only do it a couple of times a week to keep it on the downlow.

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share info that some may find helpful.
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Oh and forgot to mention, some people are selling these on ebay for a small profit. $50 bags of copper LMC's seem to be going for around $85-$90 average for $50 of face value paid. You wont get filthy rich doing it, but the extra $35-$40 you make can be put towards adding to your coin collection.
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 Posted 04/13/2008  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a serious problem of people thinking high copper prices are good for their coin hoard collection. In reality, everyone suffers and this affects EVERYONE unless you are a bushman but I don't see how you managed to come in here then.

Copper should be a basic commodity and if the price of copper is still continue jacking up higher, not only will it increase illegal copper recycling, i.e. thefts, it just forces you to pay anything that has copper content in it.

Ok, all wires have copper - please pay extra 10%. Some coinages use copper as alloys. Sorry too expensive, we'll have to use aluminum or iron. Oh add bronze and brass to the list too since it requires copper. Perhaps you need at least several pounds of copper coins just to break even, not even factoring in the time you take to look for them.
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 Posted 05/07/2008  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I traded six rolls of pennies at my savings and loan and in return got 4 all wheat rolls. I guarantee you they didn't come from the fed! I am finding about 20% copper on average and I do about 50 rolls a week if I can get them in my small town.
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 Posted 05/07/2008  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add puman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was scanning through this post and noticed a lot of "ordered a box..." stuff. Do you actually have to order them? I walk into the bank once a week or so and throw down 25 bucks and walk out with a box of pennies. I went through a box the other day that produced 25% copper, that included 13 wheats (1918 was the oldest) and a 1971-S that looks better than some of the 2007 stuff, some dings but full mint luster.
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The tellers at my local bank use to look at me strange when I'd take them 10 rolls of pennies and ask for 10 rolls in return. Now that they know the story, we've developed a good system. Rolls I've searched already get marked with a blue highlighter and they know not to give me rolls I've already checked. I snag all the coppers from the rolls, sort them by years into coin tubes and roll them when the tubes are full....then I box them and put them away. I also check for errors using the book "Strike It Rich With Pocket Change" as a reference.....I've scored a couple of 2000 wide "AM" varieties....but am still looking for the elusive 1999 Wide "AM", 1992 and 1992-D Close "AM"
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quote:
I was scanning through this post and noticed a lot of "ordered a box..." stuff. Do you actually have to order them? I walk into the bank once a week or so and throw down 25 bucks and walk out with a box of pennies. I went through a box the other day that produced 25% copper, that included 13 wheats (1918 was the oldest) and a 1971-S that looks better than some of the 2007 stuff, some dings but full mint luster.


Alot of the banks I have dealt with around here only order enough boxes of pennies to maintain their business customers needs. Sometimes it may be late in the cycle between deliveries from Brinks, Loomis, etc so they may be able to spare a box. Your best bet though is to build a relationship with a branch (specifically the head teller) and ask them to order a box or boxes for you on a regular basis. Be sure to bring them chocolates once in awhile so that they are kept happy.
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