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1968 S Double Chin May Be?

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Hello all. We not much to share the last couple weeks.
This is the most exciting coin with a question.So its been around the block.Is this a double nose and chin?

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I know there is a '68-s DDO, but I'm not sure this is it. Can you post pics of the entire coin, both sides? And maybe closeups of IN GOD WE TRUST?
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Yes it is, Machine Doubled.
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The nose and chin are reduced in size by the "doubling". Here's a pic Coop made that explains it. When you're in doubt what the normal size is, you can usually compare it to another coin of the same year.


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Nose and chin are perfect examples of MD - very flat and shelf like doubling!!
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When these areas show doubling, it is always raised, not flattened.
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On machine damage after the strike, they are flatten/reduced from the normal size of the devices. (not enlarged)
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Seeing more examples helps you to see what is going on with the post strike damage on these coins.
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Good morning all thank you so much for all the replies there was no doubling On In God We Trust the only doubling was on the nose and the chin thank you also for always posting the pictures it really helps so far I have seemed to be a master at finding Machine Doubling I am always so very grateful for all your education and help have a blessed day
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A lot of new collectors take a while to figure this out. The biggest clue: They are flat, shelf like, ruding the over all size of the device. If it were hub doubling, then it would be raised and enlarged as the doubling is on the die. The flat look comes from die movement after the strike that alter the devices.

Doubled dies that are enlarged in 3-D:
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Do you see the enlarging of the device?
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This may look like MD, but note it is rounded and not flat and shelf like.
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On MD coins, we often see this showing one color as they are flat. But note on this coin the contour of the area affected show a light to dark area as it is rounded.
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So we can see that the devices are raised on doubled dies and rounded. This happens because the hub doubling is on the die. Each coin will show the same doubling.

RPMs that show the enlarging in 3-D:
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Can you see that the RPM is raised above the field and is not flat or shelf like?
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On this one you can see the die flow over the raised area. That show that this has been on the die for some time, but is still there. If this were an issue with MD, then that area would be flat and also affected the normal shape of the mint mark, not the field.
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Note again it rises from the field. If this were MD, then it would affected the mint mark. The RPM is separate from the mint mark.
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This RPM is very close in spread, but not how it enlarged the mint marks and shows two distinct mint marks on top of the other one?
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Machine damage that reduces the size of the devices in 3-D
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Note how the devices are reduced from the machine damage after the strike?
Hope this helps a bit more?
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Whoa, Coop! You're busy this morning, what a library of informative pix! Those 3-D pix show it spot on.

Coop, have you ever started a thread explaining these differences so that we could refer either the newbies or ourselves to? A short synopsis such as this goes miles in pinpointing the differences. Seems we all fall prone to just this question when first earnestly "looking deep".

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Here is a few links to stuff I've posted in the past:
http://goccf.com/t/265641
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Good stuff Coop! You remain the epitome of "cutting edge". Very nice new pics and explanations. There are so many that have, and continue to benefit from your pics and expertise. Thank you.
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with all above with not much to add except for good eye and great pics william
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