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When To Certify A Coin?

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I was looking at the costs of certification and I am wondering, when does it make sense to certify a coin? I noticed that certified coins are more expensive; however, it looks like ungraded coins also sell on ebay.
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The retail value needs to be at least $100 to justify slabbing a coin.
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Cost of coin + certification costs <= sale price certified

You need an honest grade to estimate the cost and price. Don't be overly optimistic.
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Short answer... never.

I used to think $250 would be a minimum, but then figured if I am spending $250 on a little metal disc shouldn't I educate myself to the point where I know what it is I'm buying - without paying a stranger to do think for me?

I also prefer my coins accessible to handle, rather than be encased in a plastic coffin.



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I like that answer. Besides. I don't think I'm going to be purchasing coins over $100
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The retail value needs to be at least $100 to justify slabbing a coin.


I disagree.
My level is at least $200.
People tend to forget S&H and considering that they are generally shipped Registered both ways that's a big added cost.

And I see 4 reasons for getting coins slabbed; this is my high to low priority order.
1. Authentication - is the coin what it appears to be; not a fake or counterfeit.
2. Originality - has the coin been cleaned or altered
3. Grade
4. Conservation - avoiding environmental impacts but there are other as good or better ways to do this.

Actually there is sometimes a 5th reason.
5. Sentimentality - in memory of a person that was close to you.
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I would say depends on the coins in question and your future goals. If you have a raw coin that is often counterfeited or have a specific VAM or variation it may be time to certify.

Case in point 1875 s/cc Trade dollar purchased raw as an 1875 s.

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Case in point 1875 s/cc Trade dollar purchased raw as an 1875 s.

It was an S/CC before it was slabbed as well, so that isn't a reason except it does make it easier to sell to someone that doesn't really know what he is buying, but who CAN read slabs.
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I don't collect plastic so my answer is never.
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Short answer... never.
I agree. I doubt I would ever send a coin off to be certified.

However, buying a certified coin for the right price (the value of the coin only) is totally okay.
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So in the second photo of the
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1875 s/cc trade dollar
What am I looking at, how do you know it was CC? I'm a noob sorry. See I would need the certification to know. LOL.
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As for the s/cc there is a remnant "c" to the right of the "s" that is the removed CC from the San Francisco mint die back in 1875. The second photograph shows it but there is also a bag mark that partially obscures it. That is why I had it certified.
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