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Half Dollar 1925 S California Diamond Help Grading

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ask me if you want more detailed images, greetings simone
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I was noticing the shape of the back foot was different between the 2 coins, so I decided to do a search for other examples. I was surprised when I ran across this picture of one on the APMEX website. This coin is very similar to the OP's coin in my opinion. Even has same MM placement.

http://www.apmex.com/product/72393/...mmem-half-bu

Either APMEX is using a picture of a counterfeit or I could be misjudging the OP's coin.

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 Posted 04/04/2017  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I'm not yet convinced about this coin being a counterfeit. I certainly don't doubt nickelsearcher's expertise, but one thing to consider...

I don't believe the position of the mint mark on the reverse is a marker for being a counterfeit. In 1925, mint marks were hand punched into the dies delivered to the branch mints. With over 86,000 coins struck, it is almost guaranteed that more than one die was used. Besides, if you look at a large enough group of California's, including those in PCGS and NGC holders, you will notice variations in the location of the mint mark.

I'm still "assessing" but I wanted to share my thoughts about the mint mark diagnostic.



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This could be right, but I still can't find another pic showing that ghost right arm - to me, this is the main factor.
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thanks for the answers, I think there is the second arm, but if there could be a VAM?
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I have no opinion on this topic, except to say that this is a fascinating thread.
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This NGC image shows a hint of a phantom arm. I think it might be accentuated on the OP coin from an artifact of light reflection.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/coin-explor...coinid-19281
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Could the phantom arm just be a worn die issue?
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Hate to raise a topic from the dead...but did the experts here, decide that this was or was not a counterfeit?

I am just getting into commemoratives and I am trying to make sure I do not get burnt by fakes if I can avoid it.

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