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1934 Washington Quarter Light And Heavy Motto

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 Posted 04/16/2017  04:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ronh308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am posting this question again since I can't find any post I made previously. The website was down yesterday and maybe that is the reason.

I have a question concerning the light and heavy mottos on the 1934 Washington quarter. I just got a heavy motto example and there is no problem. It matches the image in the RedBook.

The problem is the light motto. I have looked at dozens of light motto quarters for sale, some of them authenticated. Not one of them matches the image in the RedBook. A little further searching for info revealed that the diagnostic for the heavy motto is the height of the center point of the W in the Word WE. If it projects above the left and right steokes of the W, then it is a heavy motto. The descriptions of the light motto are all somewhat vague.

Can any one shed any light on how to identify the light motto variety?

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 Posted 04/16/2017  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oijogja to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed no one has yet replied to your question, so in case this will help, here is a link to PCGS's CoinFact page. There's a side by side image that I think could clear up the confusion.

http://m.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/5794

The light motto is mainly way less defined than the other two varieties. If there is some other diagnostic besides the weakness, I don't know if it, sorry.

I hope that's useful, and I didn't want your question to go unanswered.
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Thanks Oijogia, That was a helpful site. Maybe with some further looking at images, I can learn to identify the motto types.
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There is a "light motto", "medium motto" and "heavy motto". For reasons too lengthy to repeat here, these are also referred to as Type of 1932, the Type of 1935 and the Type of 1936, respectively (although all three were used to mint some 1934 quarters).

Both the light and medium mottoes have the lower middle vertex, so you can't use that to distinguish between these two types.

The light motto is the same style motto used on all 1932 quarters, but only a relatively small amount of 1934 quarters were minted with this style and only at the Philadelphia and San Francisco mints (no 1934 Denver light motto coins were minted-so if your coin had a D mint mark it is not a light motto).

Distinguishing between the light and medium mottoes is complicated by the fact that many 1934 quarters exhibit wear making the examination of the details of the motto difficult.

The light motto gets its name from the fact that on 1934 coins it looks worn and "mushy" even on mint state coins.

The medium motto is much more distinct and and the letters are thinner.

If that is not enough, then consider this:
In the light motto, the G of GOD is very close to the O.
In the medium motto, the G and O are more separated.

Also, note the thickness of the 1934 date between the light and medium motto examples.

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Besides the boldness of the letters, the heavy motto has the center of the W higher than the sides whereas in the light motto the center of the W is very clearly below the sides.
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