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Does Anyone Else Own Any Early ANACS Graded Coins With Certificates.

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In the days of old when coins were not slabbed, they came back with a photo certificate with the grade and a number.
A bar code on a 2x2 and on the back of the certificate and a pink insert in the 2x2 with a disclaimer on the holder and a matching barcode.
Those were the scary days of PVC.
I have several key dated coins like this.
When I enter the certification number nothing is found on the ANACS page.
Does anyone else have any of these?


I was also thinking that back in 1983 when these were sent in, the grading standards were a bit more strict. I could be wrong about that.

Here's a 1909 S Lincoln in VG8/VG8 when they graded both obverse and reverse.. I blacked out the number and my name and the date submitted for my own personal reasons.
The Registration number is something like F 5655 D for example. Not the right one of course. The one I enter with or without spaces does not show up for any of these early ANACS graded coins.



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ANACS has been through several owners and many of the early serial numbers didn't make it into the database. Yes, I have a fair number of the certificates.

Your certificate is listed in the book as either ANACS 5 which was only used in 1983. And none of the certificates ever had a barcode on them. Barcodes didn't appear until the third generation of ANACS slab.

What I want to see is an ANACS certificate that dates before 1975. ANACS began operation in 1972 but I have never seen a certificate from before 1975. I have to wonder it there might be a very early variety that I have never seen.
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Thanks Condor101! I will post the back of one of these certificates and one of the "flips" in a minute.
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Well, I was wrong. The certificate does not have a bar code. The 2x2 that they sent the coin back with does with the matching registration number ( which I blacked out ) This one matches the number on the cert.
very interesting that they go back to 1972.

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As Conder says, those did not make it into the database.

HOWEVER, the original ledgers exist at the ANA Museum and can be looked up and the page photocopied for a fee. The original negatives are also in storage.

But, the later photo certs were not in the ledgers, only in a database that was stored on Zip disks and they were unable to extract the data when they started with the small white holders. The break point is something like E-xxxx-D or so... I'd have to look it up.

So the current ANA database has the two letter - four digit slabs and later.
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I have a bunch of these ANACS certificates. The grading was way stricter back then so I think the certs have no value as I would gain 1-2 points on every mint state coin by slabbing them.
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Thanks guys, my graded coins with these certificates are mostly better date lower graded coins but I think they are better off these days than back then if re-slabbed too.
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