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paulandheidi New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 1:47 pm I'm new to coin collecting and I'm interested in purchase a tyre shekel (30 Pieces of silver). I'm interested in this coin. I'm wondering if from the pictures you can help me identify if it's real and what year it was made. Thanks. Paul * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 4:06 pm to the community Wish the pictures were a little better, From what I can see I don't like the looks of it. Where were you buying this from? Here is a list of Tyre Shekels for sale on Vcoins: https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...signed=False Report this Post to the Staff
paulandheidi New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 8:06 pm Thanks for the reply. I'm buying from http://zaksantiquities.com. What makes you think it looks wrong.. Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1306 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 8:28 pm Well first if you are open to looking some more you can do much better then dealing with a tourist place in Israel. They have to get a decent markup and you will be paying them like 2 grand. There are plenty of great coins you don't have to worry about that are NGC graded already. So there is a record. And you will pay much less for the same quality. Example from a past sale, not mine.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/AR-Shekel-P...047675.l2557 Or if you want to see one for sale now, not mine, here is one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Phoenicia-T...AOSw3utY8TnV He does not have make an offer but at that price they take offers. Look for NGC and long established feedback. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 8:31 pm From the pictures it just doesn't look right, if you can provide better pictures it might help. The detail on the reverse looks sloppy and the legend appears to be broken in spots. Report this Post to the Staff
paulandheidi New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 10:38 pm Thanks for the insight. I see what you say about the legend at the top . Louviillekyshop, thanks for the insight. I like your coin. I"m just getting into this. I really appreciate your help Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1306 Posts	Posted 04/20/2017 11:19 pm This coin series especially trades like silver bullion. So much so you can see what they go for based on grade really simply. I bought one from David Hendin when I was making an album for someone with Christian religious coins but I also have watched hundreds trade. They were not at all uncommon as the temple allowed them so they were important. And pretty much ancient coins of this size had a really great chance of getting to recent times. So you can always get yourself any level of an Owl Tetradrachm or you can always get yourself a decent Tyre Shekel. Now if you are not into the looks so much and just want a coin that could have been paid to Judas, less of a collector and more for the religious significance, you can go lower in quality and just barely see the letters for Tyre and the eagle. Anything from perfect to that level is available. Looking at the site in Israel you link to, Zaks, those other holyland coins are way high priced. The regular bronze prutah's they have up. If you are ever unsure about a potential purchase just send the link in to the coin you are looking at and I can let you know if the dealer is great, we all know of each other. In the meantime, put a watch on this coin below and then do watches for others. Below is a live auction from a seller with 200,000 sales at $500 already and a decent NGC coin. Then watch lots of other Tyre shekels sell. Become an expert in the coin before series you buy it. Then you can really bargain. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHOENCIA-TY...AOSwB-1Y8Oto Also, you can use munzeo for any ancient sold anywhere in the last decade. Here is a munzeo search for Tyre shekel: http://munzeo.com/tyre-shekel/sort-0 Edited by louisvillekyshop 04/20/2017 11:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
paulandheidi New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 04/21/2017 10:35 am Thanks for the links. This is really fun. I'm really looking for a tyre shekel, but I want the back side to be in decent enough shape to see the date, the eagle and the surrounding legend. So I know I'm gonna spend some money, I just want to find a pretty good deal. I'm sure I'll end up buying more than one over time. I want the coin to be authentic, but I don't want it slabbed because I want to hold it and teach my children about it. I will continue to look and I'm planning on going to a coin show in the Los Angeles are in June. So this is just the beginning.. Paul Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34419 Posts	Posted 04/21/2017 7:05 pm Quote: So this is just the beginning.. Ok that is great. I look forward to seeing some of your new acquisitions! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1306 Posts	Posted 04/22/2017 12:34 am Paul; This is actually easier then you might suspect. The surface is important. For example, below are my opinions but they are obviously most likely correct in my opinion. A few ebay listings from Israel: Look through a ton, and become an expert, only then buy. Really ancient: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252885716498 Fake: http://www.ebay.com/itm/332185004163 Really Ancient: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252878813606 Fake: http://www.ebay.com/itm/332185012073 Now there are ancient fouree coins out there, ancients created at the time but not official, or plated. Run what you are gonna buy by us, we love doing this as you can see. Edited by louisvillekyshop 04/22/2017 12:36 am Report this Post to the Staff
paulandheidi New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 04/22/2017 6:22 pm louisvillekyshop...Thanks for the links. I thought an original, authentic shekel weighed around 14.00 grams. I noticed one of the ones you said was really ancient and real for sale for $750 weighs only 12.84. I thought that was a sign of a fake shekel... it was this one...http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tyre-Shekel...AOSwj25Y8Nuw I'm just wondering... Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1306 Posts	Posted 04/23/2017 12:58 am Here is one CNG sold in February for $700. And it weighed 12.26 grams. The coins do wear down. About the coin in Israel you cited from what I posted, he does show it is from the Kenneth Miller Collection of Ake-Ptolemaïs. The way the guy priced it he seems to be trying to get back close to what he has in it. So ask to see documentation and if he does not have it anymore you might ask for a better price if you were interested. http://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotvi...96d82aac475d Looking over the rest of his coins, that guy in Israel who I don't know, he seems to be selling off some classic holyland coins at fair prices. If I bought that tribute penny of his that is about what I'd get fro selling it in the condition it is in. Very fair for the Athens tetradrachm, but not great quality. Just a classic collector trying to get his money back in my opinion. http://www.ebay.com/sch/polikarpovy...047675.l2562 Edited by louisvillekyshop 04/23/2017 01:14 am Report this Post to the Staff
paulandheidi New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 04/28/2017 7:42 pm Thanks for all your help...This is very fun... I was intersted in some coins someone was trying to sell, but since I"m new and I haven't posted like 50 times I can't reply. Is there anyway around this. Or do I need to start commenting on a bunch of forums...Ha Ha Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 04/28/2017 9:01 pm There is no way around it, other than to follow the rules of the forum. Commenting on a bunch of forums to boost your post count is frowned upon. If they are quality replies and not all "nice coin" than that's OK. Report this Post to the Staff
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