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Feeling More Confident With The Reverse Type Of This 1964 P Quarter

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I posted this earlier today and then deleted it because I wasnt confident I had enough evidence to prove what I had was a type C reverse for a Philly instead of Denver 1964 Washington quarter. After bumming through related topics on here for hours, I feel like I have a chance. Not saying I'm right!Just that there is a better than average chance I found an awesome coin. Hopefully I can display the sharp feathers on bow, that the leafs line up where they should be as compared to a 65, also that the leaves touch on key feathers on the eagle, and we can go from there. There is a spur on N in Unum that goes to the left which I will attempt to show. It's small and I am not the best photographer.

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 Posted 04/22/2017  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Take a look at this page
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From your photos it looks like s normal tupe A
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Sweet conversation begins! Thanks for the link. I saw those pics today and was wondering what the ES thing was all about. I'm not lucky enough today to get a type B. That would be sweet plus the arrows don't line up. Which Brings type A. I have learned that there are similarities between the two types. The ES thing I didn't understand because there seems to be such a small difference in space. I noticed the S on the type C has more curvature on the foot. Maybe that's what was trying to be said. The S on my coin has that if it makes a difference at all. The leaf over the A pic I started out with was bad I admit. The type A has a more curved leaf I saw and I think mine is more straight. I'll try another pic. Some of the things I read say that the type A leaves don't touch the feathers. That and a couple other things I thought I saw made me bring this to light here. But it's been a long day so who knows lol!

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 Posted 04/23/2017  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oijogja to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These Washington quarter RDVs always make me want to tear my hair out. The best resource I've found is this, in case you hadn't already been using it:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...8hSGYeDCAYjQ

Unfortunately, the distinctions are still confusing and not especially well illustrated. Plus, I find that wear on the coin in question makes the attribution much harder, but maybe that's just me.

Anyways, I would take a look at what they show for Type C, and notice the 2nd (middle) leaf that touches the eagle's tail feathers. On Type C, it is skinnier than on Type A, which is much wider. This leads me to believe your 64 is Type A.

For what it's worth, the leaf to the left of the arrow tips does look farther away from the points than I would have expected for Type A. Although usually that area is the main pickup point discussed to distinguish reverse types, I find it quite difficult to rely on if the coin is a bit worn.

I hope this is useful, and good luck with the search.
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Type 'C' is a 1964-D. The type 'A' and 'B' are on the Philly quarters. Proof reverses were use on the 1956-1964 reverses on some quarters. Type 'A' is normal.
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Type 'B' is a retired proof reverse.
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Coop I know you are familiar with many varieties if not most. However, you of all people know that some highly unlikely minting errors have occurred over our history.I'm not right on everything that's for sure but the idea that either a mint mark wasn't placed or they didnt try out the dies before sending the die to Denver doesn't seem too off the wall. All I know is that the leaves touch the feathers, the feathers on arrows are pointed and jagged, and if that isn't on a type A that I know of then I just assumed a different type die was used. I'll try to gather some more evidence to prove of this
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This would be the first specimen of a Philadelphia 64 with the Type C reverse if so (unless I'm misinformed). I look forward to more pictures. =)
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Oh I haven't given up on this topic yet lol! So thanks to Oijogja who had a great link on the subject I learned a couple other differences between type C and type A that I hope will be convincing. The you in Quarter is untouched with the type A variety from a leaf. However it is touched in type C. Again, the leaves around the feathers are rounded and don't touch in type A.

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Here is the information from err-ref.com
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=1964+Quarter+Type+A
Type 'C' is on the 1964-D quarters.
Type 'B' is just on the Philly quarters. (reused proof dies only located in Philly) Can be found in 1956-1964 quarters from Philly.
Type 'A' can be found on both the Philly and Denver quarters as they are the normal one (common) for that year.
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