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Pillar of the Community
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I know these are notoriously hard to grade due to the poor quality planchets that were used, and I'm not even sure whether this one would actually qualify for grading or whether it would get a "details" grade. I'm thinking it might possibly be around a F15 or so, but I'll leave it up for you guys to decide:  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm aware of the planchet problems in that time period but that coin seems to me to have TOO MUCH of a surface problem. I'd be concerned about it being a cast copy.
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Pillar of the Community
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It's definitely not a cast copy. I just used harsh side lighting to provide the most amount of detail.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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f-details, environmental damage
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
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FWIW, here's another shot without the harsh lighting:  It's a really dark coin, so I had to over-expose it quite a bit to get the details in the original pictures.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Definitely environmental damage. The obverse might warrant a corrosion designation. I would be in the fine-details camp. Just picked up an 1808 myself.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm a guy that stays away from "details" coins. That being said, this is a nice F-12. I would say there is an outside shot of a straight grade on this one. Sometime pictures exaggerate the porosity and other flaws. I zoom the pic out on my phone so that the coin is close to actual size and re-evaluate. I would have no problem owning this coin. Nice one!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agree f-12 details with porosity
Tim Hughes
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F-12, and I am thinking Details.
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Bedrock of the Community
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F12 Details. high amount of porosity but keep in mind how these planchets were acquired.
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