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Failed to find the original thread, but we are coming up on month 2 of the 3 month planned stability study at 40C/75% relative humidity on full red Lincoln Cents in 2x2s, ANACS, NGC, and PCGS holders. I took hi res photos before I set them on stability. I will take photos after 3 months, but I pulled them at month 2 to just have look.
Some of the holders have visible moisture accumulating within them.
Some of the red doesn't look quite as red, but I'll have to take photos to compare and make sure.
Several of the cents are developing black spots, while others are still fine.
*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** Edited by Andrew99
04/27/2017 3:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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WHich of the holders are holding up best?
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Seems a bit random. Clearly the ANACS holders are accumulating moisture within them, but they are not the ones that are developing black spots. I'll actually take the coins home next month and take a bunch of pictures. Depending, I may continue the study.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Assume you have baseline pics? If so, please give us some comparisons!
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CCF Advertiser
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Yes, I have all the baseline pics. I'll show comparisons when I bring them home in a month and take the T3 pics.
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Pillar of the Community
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Looking forward to seeing the pics Andrew!
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Pulled the box out of stability chamber today, 8/8/17. This is a couple months later than I had planned, but I got busy. The coins have been at 40C/75%RH for 5 months. Early observation shows marked darkening on some of the red cents, spots, and evidence of moisture intrusion into the holders. Just bumping this post for now as it will take a while to take pictures of all these.
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Interesting.  |
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1961 cent NGC PF 66 RD, T=0 and T=5mo   As with all the pics, it is difficult to adjust the lighting to be exactly the same as 5 months ago. There is brownish color over the proof surfaces, though it is hard to pick up in the pictures. |
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1972 NGC MS65 RD, Top T=0, bot T=5 mo   Note the new black spot above nose |
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Rest in Peace
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It all has to do with environment and storage . I'm sure if you had a super red MS68 Wheat cent in a 100% air tight holder ,put it in a temperature controlled glass enclosure . seal it,and leave in a dark location for a few hundred years ,it would come out as red as ever . As this is just my opinion ; does anyone have a different solution ?  |
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None of these holders is airtight, however the coins in 2x2s did just as well as the TPGs and better than some of them. In a high humidity environment, perhaps trapping moisture in a small enclosure is not the best preservation option. BTW, the temperature was controlled and the coins were in the dark for 5 months.
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Nice work so far @andrew99. Both the '61 and the '72 are in NGC slabs?
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Pillar of the Community
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Great experiment! 5 months is a short time for toning, but the heat and humidity should have accelerated the process. It'll be interesting to see how the cents in the other holders did.
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The two above were in old style and new style NGC slabs.
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Pillar of the Community
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Red doesn't stay Red.
That's why PCGS doesn't back labeling coins Red anymore.
They WILL tone to RB eventually.
"Eventually" depends on the environmental conditions of storage area.
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