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Just got the grade back on this one. A friend took the pictures. I paid $45 or so.  |
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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On the fence with this one. The obverse is missing a lot of stripe detail (either due to wear or weak strike), but the reverse is quite nice all around. I'd say VF20 for the obverse and XF45 for the reverse. (So net VF30 is where I'd call it.)
And the date looks quite strange, too.
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05/03/2017 10:17 pm
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Reverse looks AU. Obverse has weakness, mostly from strike I assume but it seems odd that the reverse is very well struck. Perhaps the obverse die itself was worn and damaged. That could account for the poorly-formed date digits.
I'd guess PCGS gave it a compromise grade of XF-45.
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Quite a disparity of grades per side on that one. Really Like the rays, good die, clear strike, too bad reverse stinks. Coulda had a solid AU if that bad die had been replaced, depending on TPG, ANACS would say XF45, PCGS say EF40 details, cleaned. |
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I would say that the reverse is Mint State, and obverse might have enough of a rub to take it down to AU-55. The coin is very poorly struck which was not unusual for these pieces that were made from "the devil's copper." The hard copper-nickel alloy ate up dies and resulted in poorly made coins. If the gap between dies was not set properly, the coins often looked like this. The question for the obverse is where does the poor strike end and the rub begin? Also has the date been scrapped or is that how it was struck? I'd say AU-55 on this, although MS-60 or 61 is not impossible if the graders gave the obverse a partial pass.
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05/05/2017 08:32 am
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Interesting analysis. I would have thought mid-AU at best.
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Interesting analysis. I would have thought mid-AU at best. My grade is based on the reverse and the surfaces of the obverse. Most of the missing detail on the obverse is due to strike. |
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nice pick  gonna be a little tough to squeeze full value out of that puppy. for $45 you might make a few bucks ;-) IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
05/04/2017 6:56 pm
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gonna be a little tough to squeeze full value out of that puppy. I'm not even going to try to get full value. My bet is to sell at a $100 discount to someone wanting registry points and does not care about the coin. |
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That coin is $400-$500 in ms62. $100 less seems a little strong. Keep us posted about what you are able to sell this for. Very curious. And congrats again. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I'm going off the $500 number.
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"MS-62" is too high by at least two grading points. Paying MS-62 money for that piece is a purchase of registry points not the coin.
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