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Please look at the photos on this 2000LMC- its supposed to be a normal closed AM- the FG is positioned right for a normal closed AM- (not close to base etc..)yet there is separation of the A & M * It almost looks like the very close separation you see on the 1992D Lincoln- its there, but you have to look very close before you get deflated and realize its not a closed AM!* I looked at this under a 20X lens and cannot see where it was ever connected and then worn away- maybe I missed something? Help on this is appreciated - Thanks. Image:  2000LMCjpeg1.jpg48.16 KB Image: 2000LMCjpeg2.jpg54.46 KB Image: 2000LMCjpeg4.jpg49 KB Image: 2000LMCjpeg5.jpg43.93 KB Image: 2000LMCjpeg6.jpg40.55 KB Image: 2000LMCjpeg7.jpg44.36 KB Image: 2000LMCjpeg8.jpg46.75 KB |
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There is also a very miniscule dot right at the base of the right side of the A- I'll try to get a picture of it and post- if I can.
Could this dot/blob have interferred with the forming of the complete A to connect with the M next to it when the coin was struck?
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DISREGARD my second post- its not any metal/dot/blob Here are additional closer photos. Maybe, just maybe, this is a new find- 2000 WIDE AM- FAR Initials FG, Business Strike!  If thats even possible. And remember, none of these now "  " Only kidding! Image: 2000LMC3jpeg1.jpg46.98 KB Image: 2003LMC3jpeg2.jpg48.16 KB Image: 2000LMC3jpeg3.jpg52.3 KB Image: 2000LMC3jpeg4.jpg51.1 KB |
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There is a strong effect of die polishing on the reverse that appears to have thinned the left leg of the Letter M. That may be the issue with this one.
Thanks,
Bill
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you know Chuckster..... I've also wondered the same thing about WAMs, Close AMs & the proximity of the initials. Have you or anyone else out there found any research to back this. I thought it sort of redundant or insignificant, since I seem to become brain locked sometimes looking at one coin at a time trying to remember all of the different varieties that exist or might exist for that one coin.......ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Not another variety type to think about. It's all good though.  |
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I know what you mean about looking at specefic coins- I'm getting brain locked myself looking for a 99 Wide AM!- already found 98's & 2000's- so this is becoming an obession to find the 99 with me (LOL)! No-I have not researched anything-, but as I'm still looking for the elusive 99 Wide AM-,I still keep an eye out for something that looks different etc , like this 2000 LMC- Can there be a 1998,1999 or 2000 Wide AM out there with a FAR FG (Business Strike?) I don't know. Can the US Mint actually make such a mistake?, but I guess anything is possible . |
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Bill- I looked over the pics again and you are right- there does seem to be a heavy die polish on the left side of the M- it showed up when I used a stronger light then what I originally was using- it starts about mid-way and starts expanding down the length of the M to the base- going further and further towards the base of the A-
Thanks!!
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It's a Close AM with die polishing that removed the base of the letters from the field up. The whole idea behind the AM thing is that there were two different reverse designs...it's not all about whether the letters are split. There's a bigger picture going on. It's also not "closed" AM - it's "close" AM. A request - when you post questions about coins, please show only the photos that we need to see to determine what you have. You ask a question about the AM on the reverse of a coin and the first image you post is of the obverse - completely unnecessary...I'd rather see the part you are asking about, then request more photos if needed. |
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1. All due respect- unnecessary in your opinion, not mine!
I put the Obverse first to show that it was a 2000 dated coin- sorry if that bothers YOU
2.I did say Closed and not Close- I'll try to be more exact next time!
Anythingelse you would like to have me do on "YOUR FORUM"?
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Why do people feel the need to diss coppercoins when he takes the time to respond to a post? He posted for your educational benefit, not to be a donkey. Do with the info as you please but don't throw it back at him when you do not agree with the way he responds to your post. Yes, CC is a big boy and can take care of himself, but I get kind of tired seeing someone of his caliber get repeatedly dissed for no apparent reason  - if you think he is rude try browsing the PCGS forum for a while because you do not know what rude is... |
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Well, frankly it doesn't bother me. I simply asked nicely by request to only see the photos that matter - I am often really choked for time, yet I try to come by here and answer what I can. When I have to open ten photos to see the one that matters, it gets a little annoying. Really...we are adults. I figure you can read the date on the coin. I'm only asking that I see first the image or images that matter. After all I did say it was a request, not a demand...and I added 'please' - I don't know how much nicer I have to be.
It's not a matter of being "exact" - it's a simple matter of learning and using proper terminology. Makes a person sound a little more like they are learning what they are doing.
Regarding it being my forum....no more than it's anyone else's, and I'm sure there are others who would prefer to see the pertinent images rather than a whole gallery...they just didn't say so.
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All I was asking was to please help me with my questions about a specific coin- which is what Chuck did in his first paragraph & I greatly appreciate his response and expertise-. Regarding the word "closed/versus close"- wrong termonology on my part, and again, I appreciate CC'S knowledge of what is the correct word when discussing Wide AM'S, but that's where his reponses should have ended.(IMHO) What I took exception to was telling me what pictures to post. I'll post what I feel is pertinent to the questions I have about that specific coin etc. Sorry if clicking on one more picture is deemed "Unnecessary". I just felt that I wanted to show that is was indeed a 2000 LMC- that's all. If my reponse was taken as being rude, not intended to be, just wanted to STRESS my feelings about it. |
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