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Just found one of these in a lot I recently got - Netherlands 1/2 Cent 1891, not going to be vanishingly rare but I hadn't seen one up to now and obviously there are lots of 1 Cent and 2 Cents pieces out there but this one is an odd little piece so I was wondering if they are a bit on the rare side of town?
My coin is in fine or better by the looks of it, can anyone tell me what they're worth?
Thanks,
Matt
*** Moved to World Forum by Forum Dad *** Edited by NumisMattyUk
04/15/2008 7:37 pm
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Norway
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I do not know if this is representative, but in a Norwegian auction three months ago this coin in XF (I cannot vouch for the grade, a lot of sellers are optimists and the picture is removed by now) went for $15.
Krause lists this coin at $4 for F, $8 for VF, $15 for XF and $35 for Unc.
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I am not one of those optimists. Thanks for the valuations ;)
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I am glad to hear it, and hope you stay realistic. I see from your link that you mainly avoid giving exact grades, which I suppose is just as well in most cases.
By the way, do you have an 1½ pence for sale? I collect unusual numbers and do not have 1½. However, according to my Krause they are not very uncommon.
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Yes, grading is actually largely down to opinion when you think about it; although there are strict regimes for such things used by certain companies/associations, they do differ a lot across the board and then you will still get slight differences in opinion. It's also important to be conservative about the grades of coins you are about to bid on for money saving purposes, as a slight "over-estimation" by an ebay seller could be the difference between an $8 coin in XF and a $50 coin in UNC (I'm sure you know anyway). Do I have a three-halfpence coin on me at the moment? I'm afraid not, but I would love to have some - maybe I should try and get some as they do seem to conjure up quite a fair bit of interest due partly to the quaintness of the denomination itself. They were produced from 1834-1843 and in 1860 and 1862; the mintages all look slightly low from 30, 000 to just under 2,000,000. A nice collectors piece to acquire no doubt ;) Maybe one day I will acquire some :) I do have some fractional farthings, of course.. Edited by NumisMattyUk
04/17/2008 1:45 pm
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Norway
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Fractional farthings would be fun, but they would not expand my collection of denominations. A half-farthing can be seen as 1/2 or 1/8, and I have both of those. I also have 1/3 and 1/12 - plus 1/4 and 1/16.
It is quite amazing what denominations that once existed. I have seen a 15½ something in my 16th century Krause (but never anywhere else). The record must be the ½ 3 + 3½ coin duo from somewhere in the Netherlands. ½ 3 actually means 1½ (the half of three) and three and a half speaks for itself....but these are very hard to find. I found the ½ 3 coin once, but it was so worn that the 3 didn't show at all and it just looked like half something - so I didn't buy it. Hopefully something better will come my way eventually.
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So you're looking for the weird denominations of Jersey, i.e. 1/13th and 1/26th?... could do with a bag-full of those too!
Dutch for that denomination is "anderhalf" - a useful little word.
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04/17/2008 4:39 pm
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Well, I actually have the 1/26th already, one of my successes. I would of course like the 1/13th as well.
I suppose the 4½ is my most unusual one, though 7½ cannot be far behind.
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I've been gathering my collection of denominations for quite a few years, I've got 61 different denominations (1/80, 1/48, 1/40, 1/26, 1/24, 1/16, 1/13, 1/12, 1/10, 1/8, 1/6, 1/5, 2/10, 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 5/10, 2/3, 1, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, 2, 2 1/2, 3, 4, 4 1/2, 5, 6, 6 1/4, 7, 7 1/2, 8, 9, 10, 12, 12 1/2, 15, 16, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 80, 100, 200, 250, 300, 400, 500, 1000, 2000, 2500, 5000, 10000, 25000, 50000, 100000, 200000, 250000). A few others I know of that I've been looking for are 1/192, 1/96, 1/52, 17, 960. I know there are more out there, but hard to find. As for 15 1/2, now that's a weird denomination.
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Hehe.. looks an awesome list already Jays-Dad - you don't have the 15.5? OMG :P
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Jays-Dad, I can inform you of a couple you have missed. Here is my list:
1/360, 1/96, 1/80, 1/48, 1/40, 1/32, 1/26, 1/24, 1/16, 1/15, 1/12, 1/10, 1/8, 1/6, 1/5, 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, 5/10, 2/3, 1, 2, 2½, 3, 4, 4½, 5, 6, 7½, 8, 10, 12, 12½, 15, 16, 20, 24, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 100, 175, 200, 250, 300, 400, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000, 20000, 50000, 100000, 200000, 250000, 750000. That is 58 in all.
I also know of 32, which is quite easy to find from Denmark (though I haven't got it myself yet) and 18. These are near the top of my wishing-list, together with 1½, 7 and 9.
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But I cannot believe your list ends at 750,000 Litotes.. what about those crazy inflationary denominations?... it's gonna be fun filling those in..
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Yes, I am a little surprised myself that there should be no higher than 750000, but I suppose hyperinflationary countries tend to use bills. I have a 500 000 000 000 dinar note from Jugoslavia....
Turkey has several "million-something" coins though, so there should be possibilities there, although all of these are commemorative. I have always preferred coins meant for circulation.
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I agree that this list should come from circulating coins, I admit my 7 1/2 is a cheat, its 7 1/2 Dollars from Cook Islands, definitely a cheater.
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Litotes, I'd love to know where some of those denominations are from. Can you tell me how you completed the 1/360, 1/32, 1/15, 7 1/2, 24, and 175? I'll put them on my wish list.
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Norway
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Sure, I'll share what info I have :-)
The 1/360 is not difficult, 1 pfennig from Prussia doubles as 1/360 Thaler. Since 360 appears on the coin I included it. 1821-1873.
1/32 is from Ethiopia. 1/32 Birr. Mine is from 1897 (EE1889) and I believe that was the only year of production. Still, it is not very uncommon and didn't cost much.
1/15 is a little difficult. Is is a Norwegian 1/15 speciedaler. You will be lucky to get one of these below $100. Produced 1796-1817.
7½ is Russian, 7½ Roubles in gold. Even more expensive than the last. Lucky for me I bought it a while ago. I couldn't resist 7½. Produced only in 1897.
24 is another Norwegian speciality, 24 skilling. I have 24 skilling from Denmark as well. These are silver coins from the 17th and 18th century and not very cheap. $100 and upwards for the Norwegians, Danish ones slightly cheaper.
175 is my cheat. A Norwegian commemorative. Produced in 1989 to celebrate 175 years since independence from Denmark.
All estimates of value is for Fine quality. I try to avoid Very Good whenever possible.
Edited by Litotes
04/25/2008 12:13 pm
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