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French Chamber Of Commerce Notes

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Where might I find a reference for WWI era French Chamber of commerce issues?

I've got one from "Chambre de Commerce de Belfort" one from "Chambre de Commerce de Paris", one from "Chambre de Commerce de Saint Omer" and one from "Ville de Metz"
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 Posted 04/17/2008  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only reference I've found so far is the Guide and Checklist of Notgeld 1914-1947.
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They're basically the French equivalent of notgeld, and classed as such in the world notgeld catalogues. You won't find them in any of the Pick banknote catalogues.
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Thanks, I sort of suspected that they were notgeldish.
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Now I need to get the book. Should I get the first edition (1988) or the second (2000). Obviously, the second edition is better, but I'm finding the first edition for $12, the second edition for $20. Current values don't matter too much to me, I'm in it for the history.
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Please be aware that this book is not in any normal sense a "catalogue". You won't be able to look up your specific notes and find prices for them. It's intended to be a checklist of cities and towns that issued notgeld-like notes, along with an indication of what kinds of notgeld were issued for that city, and roughly how rare they are.

For instance, I will quote you the entire checklist entry for Belfort:
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BELFORT (Territoire de Belfort) Haute-Rhin 1A 6A 7A

Looking up the table, we see the numbers indicate the known categories of notgeld for this town: "1" means "municipal paper" (ie. notes issued by the local council authorities in the town), "6" means "municipal metal" (metal tokens issued by the town) and "7" means "private metal" (tokens authorized by companies, businesses or individuals rather than the town government). The letter is the rarity scale for that category: "A" means most common, "up to $25".

So all it says is that the only notgeld types known for Belfort are city-issued paper notes and tokens, and private tokens, all of which are common and cheap. There's nothing about the actual designs, denominations, or different series which might have been issued there, or even whether or not there are any exceptions to the "cheap and common" rule.

For a more specific, detailed catalogue, you'd need a specialist book, which would probably only be available in French (assuming anyone has ever actually sat down and catalogued these notes).
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Thanks SAP, that would not be the type of book I'd want for my needs.
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Check out Ron Wise's site, this is an excellent site for notes from all over. In the area for French notes there are regional issues, this shows a lot of French notgeld notes. http://www.banknoteworld.com
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