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Athenian Owl Tetradrachms

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 Posted 05/20/2017  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am down to my last two owls in my collection as I trim it back bit by bit.

Athens, AR Tetradrachm, ca 393 - 370 BC

Obv:- Head of Athena right with eye seen in true profile, wearing crested helmet ornamented with three olive leaves and floral scroll
Rev:- owl standing right, head facing, to right ATE in large lettering, to left olive sprig and crescent
Minted in Athens c. B.C. 393 - 370.
Reference:- Flamen p. 126, 1 (Pi I); Svoronos Athens plate 19, 17; SNG Cop -
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16.699g, 24.31mm, 270o

The following information was provide by the dealer with the coin:-

"Transitional style tetradrachms include all of the wide spectrum of variants with the eye in profile issued after the classic "old style" almond eye tetradrachms but before the broad thinner flan "new style" tetradrachms. Recent research has classified variations of the transitional style - Pi Type, Quadridigite Style, Heterogeneous Style and sub-groups of the styles, and proposed chronologies for the different styles and groups.

This coin is the earliest transitional type, the first Pi style type, essentially identical to the "old style" with the exception of the eye in profile. The "Pi" designation is based on the P shape of the floral spiral and palmette ornamentation on the helmet bowl. The coin can be classified as Pi style, group 1. The floral ornament on examples this early do not yet resemble Pi."

Athenian-Owl-Tetradrachms

Egypt, Athens Imitative, Silver tetradrachm
Obv:- Head of Athena right, droopy eye, crested helmet with olive leaves and bent-back palmette, wire necklace, round earring, hair in parallel curves.
Rev:- Alpha;Theta;Epsilon;, right, owl standing right, head facing, erect in posture, olive sprig and crescent left, all within incuse square;
Minted in Egypt from . B.C. 420 - 380.
Reference:- cf. SNG Cop 31 ff., SGCV I 2526 (Athens),

Ex- Forum Ancient Coins where they graded it VF. The metal did not fill the die completely on the obverse resulting in the rough flat high area near Athena's temple. A test cut on the reverse was filled with pitch in antiquity.

The silver is quite bright making it relatively tricky to photograph.

From the Harald Ulrik Sverdrup Collection. Ex CNG. From a small hoard of 5 Athenian and 4 Athenian imitative issues.

Comment provided by dealer -
"Athenian tetradrachms with this droopy eye and bent back palmette have been identified as Egyptian imitative issues because they are most frequently found in Egypt and rarely in Greece.

Early in his reign the Egyptian Pharaoh Hakor, who ruled from 393 to 380 B.C., revolted against his overlord, the Persian King Artaxerxes. In 390 B.C. Hakor joined a tripartite alliance with Athens and King Evagoras of Cyprus. Persian attacks on Egypt in 385 and 383 were repulsed by Egyptian soldiers and Greek mercenaries under the command of the Athenian general Chabrias. Perhaps these coins were struck to pay the general and his Greek mercenaries."

17.157g, 25.3mm, 270o

Athenian-Owl-Tetradrachms
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Martin! Wow, fantastic coins.
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Very nice, and too many for one collection ^^ Nice coins and great photos from Martin too.

I have 3 owls, an archaic, a new type and a Kamarina AE.



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Three of my favourites though the last one wasn't quite as good as I would have hoped for.
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Great stuff, David.
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Great coins David and Martin^^b
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I believe my second to last picture could be an Egyptian imitative issue. Anyone care to give their thoughts?
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Quote:
second to last picture


Just to be clear...do you mean the one with the test mark between the owl's eyes?
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Spence, yes that's the one. I posted the picture two times. One is larger than the other.
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I ve never seen such a big and beautiful collection of Athenian owls in the collection of one collector . Try to keep the maximum , these coins are to nice to sell , it would break my heart to do it .I have one in my collection since 1982 .On the photo of the 5th tet - just before the photo with the 14 coins , the form of the alpha in ATHE on the reverse is very special: it looks as a reversed alpha, I never saw it .Many of this coins have a test cut -just as mine- I think it is because it was the silver coin used in this period everywhere . Congrats and keep a maximum.albert
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Hi Maridivnvm,

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "bent back" with respect to the palmette?
I have compared against the many owls I own and cannot see that the palmette looks bent backwards compared to the Athens tets?

Thanks,
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