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Help With Toning Vs Artificial Color

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So I was wanting to inquire if there is a sure fire way to tell the difference between natural toning and artificial color? Does it just come down to experience and common sense or are there signs to look for.. I do have three examples I am curious about.. :)

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Beautiful artificial rainbow toning can be achieved with the careful application of heat, but considerable skill is needed.

Once that skill has been attained, it can be used commercially. Let that be a fair warning to us all. For this reason, for me at least, toning adds no value to a coin at all. For top condition MS coins, I prefer blast white anyway.

Rainbow toning is in a very delicate transitional state to full gray (silver coins) or chocolate brown (bronze and copper coins).
Rainbow toning can be preserved by the application of a very thin clear acrylic spray applied to the coins, but it can be very easily chipped or rubbed. Therefore, immediate encapsulation is then needed.

Acrylic spray coating is easily removed with a soak in an acetone bath.

If the spray coating is not protected, rather ugly differential toning can be the result.



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There is no such thing as artificial or natural toning. A coin is either market acceptable or not.
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rmsexauer, I personally think those coins have attractive toning. However, I like toning and others do not.


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There is no such thing as artificial or natural toning. A coin is either market acceptable or not.


I guess you're not called BadThad for nothing.

I agree. It's really a question of how quickly it was toned. The chemical processes (as far as I know, which is not far) remain essentially the same. It's not like someone figured out an entirely new way to create toning on coins that didn't exist already. All they have done is expedite the process to realize a profit.

In the end, like BadThad said, do you like it?
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Isn't artificial toning no-no. Personally, I don't like "rainbow" toned coins, but slight natural toning is ok with me. Also, if a TPG gives "questionable toning", won't it degrade the value?
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Here is my take on this subject:Toning can be faked and it is VERY hard to tell between NT and AT so I avoid the chase for toned coins. If it looks NT to me then I might be interested,if it looks AT to me then it is a no go. If you have a silver coin that is old and it is blast white,chances are it has been dipped.
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Thank you everyone for the input on this.. I do not actively seek out toned coins, but will definitely snatch one up if I like the looks of it.. just wasn't sure if there were ones that I should avoid.. Will probably be avoiding coins for the next few weeks and sticking to paper currency.. I had two artificial disks placed in my neck yesterday.. Is much easier on the neck and back to lay back and view paper currency opposed to coins at the moment.. but if anyone happens to be considering it, I will say.. the surgery was not nearly as bad as I was expecting..

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If anyone would like to offer grading opinions on the coins I posted, I would appreciate all input.. :)
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Get well soon.
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Yes, hope you get well soon!!
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