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Why Are Flying Eagle Cents So Expensive? And Very Few Have Luster?

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Hey,

As I am working to out together a nicer type set, I have turned my attention to cents. The Flying Eagle cents gets really expensive in AU and MS. Very few of the coins have luster (which I like in my coins) and was wondering why that is? Why so expensive?

Thanks
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Shop around and be patient. If it is graded AU and has no luster, then it is overgraded. Every metal coin originally has luster by physics.

As for expensive, it is a popular 2-year type coin (three if you include 1856). Again, shop around. I got my EF/AU for $5.

And you don't know expensive until you try to get the early large cents in AU.
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 Posted 05/27/2017  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$5? The ones I'm looking at in AU around 2-300 and MS is 600
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I would go for AU 55-58 rather than low ms 60-62. The AU coins will have greater appeal, to the eye and the wallet!

Good luck in your search
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$5? The ones I'm looking at in AU around 2-300 and MS is 600


Yup. $5.

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 Posted 05/27/2017  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think "luster" is the right word for that 1857.
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TC that's a det coin for sure, weakly struck at that, can see why less than top $.
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not a very attractive fec but I would still pay $5 for it
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Good pickup for $5 but not attractive.
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I don't think "luster" is the right word for that 1857.


It has none. But I am not complaining. It fills the hole.


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TC that's a det coin for sure, weakly struck at that, can see why less than top $.


It's problem-free, except for a small patch of light verdigris by the tail. It just has a severe MAD on both sides.


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not a very attractive fec but I would still pay $5 for it


It actually looks a lot better in hand. These pictures were taken in the early days of my iPadography, so they were pretty terrible. I will take more pictures and start a new thread since I have hijacked this one. Oops. Sorry...
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If it is graded AU and has no luster, then it is overgraded.


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EF/AU for $5.


aristarchus: I don't think "luster" is the right word for that 1857.


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It has none.


These statements seem logically inconsistent.

If no luster, then not AU.

Mine is XF/AU.

Mine has no luster.



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I think it is EF. When I put if up for grading on CCF, they said AU. That is why I call it EF/AU.

http://goccf.com/t/251591&SearchTerms=1857
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The Flying Eagle cents gets really expensive in AU and MS. Very few of the coins have luster (which I like in my coins) and was wondering why that is? Why so expensive


Mint state FE's can vary greatly in quality. Many were poorly struck or suffer from poor luster due to cleaning or just environmental conditions. So those high grade examples that have lots of luster and are fully struck are at a minimum. These coins, because of their relative rarity, can command a higher premium. The high price is a reflection of a relative low supply and a high demand.
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Copper nickel coins loose their color and luster much faster than other copper alloys. Despite a huge mintage, the FE cent is expensive basically because it's a 2-year type coin. A similar example would be the high-mintage 1853 Arrows and Rays quarter.
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TypeCoin , not meaning to put you down but there's no way in HECK I would call that coin for $5 EF-AU .
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However you look at it, five bucks is a great price. But it's a terribly soft strike, with half the obverse lettering missing or nearly so, and the reverse equally soft and likely cleaned. Price aside, this is a problem coin.
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