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1828 Bust Half Dollar For Grading Vs. PCGS, O-120?

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This is the second Bust Half I picked up at the show today in trade for a 1/2 roll of circulated/cull Morgans. This one is in a PCGS straight grade holder, which describes it as being "Square Base 2, Small 8's, Large Letters" - I have not looked up the Overton variety yet.

Like the other one, I chose this Bust Half because it looks very original and doesn't appear to have been messed with before it got into plastic. Thoughts on a grade vs. PCGS?

Edit: Looks like O-120
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reverse limits this to vg8.

the second obverse picture has hairlines throughout fields and main device that indicate cleaning.

vg details cleaned.
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I saw that, but it appears to be an artifact of the lighting; they do not show up strongly in any of the other pictures except those which were taken with direct lighting. Under a 10x glass I can see faint hairlines, but nothing inconsistent with the grade which PCGS assigned, and certainly not recently inflicted; perhaps it was lightly wiped at one point in the past, like many Bust Halves. Reverse shows few or no hairlines under 10x glass, which is consistent with an 'album wiped' coin.
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Fine 12
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My first reaction to it was VF-25 because there was too much cheek and face profile showing but I think the reverse brings it down overall to a VF-20. My 50¢ worth.
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One of the hardest series to grade due to the strike issues. People tend to undergrade them. Definitely a series you have to grade by date. I'm at vf-20.
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F-15.
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Looks more like an O-117, look closer at the "50 C."

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I'd say F-15.
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I'm at vf-20
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Solid Fine 15, sneaking up on 20. Light strike reverse.
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F-12.
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F-12 or F-15 on a good day.
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My "eyeball grade" was F15. PCGS said VF20, which I think is a step overgraded. It appears to have been struck in a strange manner, with that one section of weakness being wholly inconsistent with the rest of the coin. I think I'd be most comfortable at F15, despite PCGS.

Considering that it cost me $0 to acquire the coin, I'm okay with that. ;)

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