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How Can PCGS Grade This Crap Straight? - Seated Dollar

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This is starting to get irritating.

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Image in the ebay listing is to poor for any definite conclusions.
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Hover your cursor over the image to zoom in.
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Mike, please enlighten us here. What are you seeing that has so riled your righteous indignation?

I see a digital picture taken with too bright a light source of a coin with bag marks, die marks and a little wear, that is not too much for the given grade. What am I missing?
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Looks cleaned.
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The area above and to the right of liberty's head look nice and scratched. Unless the lighting is making this coin look worse than it is.
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I suspect PCGS viewed most of the scratches as the result of die polishing.
Hence not a cleaned coin.
Therefore gradeable as original surfaces.
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Market graded better date. It would be enough to details a common date but not a better one.
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It's really impossible to tell much with those terrible photos. I'd ask for better photos if you are interested in bidding.
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I don't need better pictures. The zoom in feature tells me all I need to know. Just getting frustrated that AU Seated dollars with obvious cleaning keep showing up in straight-graded TPG holders. It's nearly impossible to put together a set.

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It's clearly a details coin that has been market graded. At least the photos are sufficient to steer away.
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The surfaces do look questionable, especially the obverse, but I'm not familiar enough with the series to say for sure. I certainly wouldn't risk it for that starting bid, and thankfully nobody else has yet either.
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Good thing I don't have to worry about purchasing coins in this price range.

The reverse is hard to tell, but the obverse shows definite scratches from cleaning.
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The photograph certainly does not do the coin any favors. Best to see the coin in hand. If you are buying
coins from photographs without a return privilege that can be a recipe for disaster.

"It's nearly impossible to put together a set" Welcome to the world of Liberty Seated dollar collectors. I
have been working on a decade set (1840's) in AU 58 for about eight years now and I am still a few coins
short. With a little Karma I expect another 5-7 yrs to reach my goal.
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I personally would not have used the flash
This closely without a diffuser.
It does the sale of coin an injustice.
On the other hand some of the 3rd party grading seems
To have gotten a little crazy?
It's a catch 22, you obviously want to buy slabbed coins to have the security
But on the other hand often times the grading seems to have been
conducted by a 6 year old.
This particular coin looks extremely scratched
& polished.
Hummm.
I guess we'll never know?
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Quote:
Hover your cursor over the image to zoom in.

Hovering the cursor doesn't do anything.

I right click and open the image in a new tab so I can enlarge it. (Actually in this case it opens large and badly pixelated. I have to reduce it til the pixelation is reduced and by that point it isn't much larger than the original image.) I will say it does look like graffiti has been removed from the right hand field and the job poorly smoothed.
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