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Post Colonial 1783 Nova Need Some Advice From Some Experts.

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Sorry for the lousy photos.

I'm curious as to how this would grade, and what would be a fair price for it?

Thanks
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I can't help you with the value. But the coin has dings at 9 and 1 o clock. I think the combo of both would be enough to trigger a details grade.
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yes- about the dings.

can you take a picture out of the holder?
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I can't take it out of the flip unless I purchase it. I'll try and get some better photos with my digital camera this weekend or early next week.
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This is a very nice example of a 1783 Nova "Constelatio" (one L), small "US", Blunt Rays type*. It is flatly struck with minor wear, a late die state, the lack of detail around the eye and the lack of denticles being noticed at once along with those two rather large areas of rim damage. Surfaces appear, at least in the photo, to be relatively smooth with even a bit of luster, almost too smooth for these coins, which usually have at least minor porosity or planchet flaws.

My eyeball grade based only on these is a range from EF45 up to AU55. Value, I would guess $1200 to $2000+ depending on eye appeal in hand, actual sharpness grade, and how bad those rim damage areas are.

*Disclaimer: Unless you trust your dealer 100%, this coin needs to be evaluated by a colonial specialist from C4 or a similar club. Fakes DO exist, sometimes overstruck on foreign copper planchets which are close in diameter. In addition, "doctoring" such as burnishing, tooling, re-engraving, etc. is often not noticeable in photos. If the price seems way too good to be true, walk away or request third-party authentication.
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Here's some (hopefully) better photos.

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I tried to crop the pics, but photobucket is being a pain. Hope these help.
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Those are a lot better!

Make the grade VF35-EF40 or so and a price around $800 to $1300. Surfaces still look great. The rim bruises/damage really are the only major issue, and there will more often than not always be at least one issue with any colonial/postcolonial coin.
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Thanks paralyse. I was able to pick this up for $225. I doubt that I'll ever start collecting colonials, but I did want at least one nice example. I appreciate all the help.
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Wow, great price!
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That's an insanely good price -- very well done!
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