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New Member
Indonesia
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Dear Members of CFF, I am a new member from Indonesia and I am here to kindly ask for your help to identify or get a second opinion on an ancient coin that I got from my late father. A members from other forum said that what I have is a Trebonianus Gallus Antoninianus - ANNONA AVGG and it is a modern replica. I kindly ask for your help to identify or confirm what others stated about my coin. Thank you very much for your help, kindness, and cooperation. Tommy     |
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Moderator
 United States
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 to the community I tend to agree with what the others said, the coin just doesn't look right to me and I also think it's a modern fake. |
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Valued Member
Australia
205 Posts |
Hi,
I also agree.
Don't less this discourage you from sticking around here and learning more about ancient coins! It's a wonderful hobby and there are plenty of resources which can help you avoid buying fake coins in the future. Most if not all of us have bought a fake coin at least once.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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When examining any ancient coin, I usually ask myself a leading question:
"If I were to buy this coin, would I be happy with it's authenticity?"
Ancient Roman coins were struck without a collar.
As a result, is is very common to find tiny radial splits around the edge of the coin.
When examining if fake, checking for metal distress inside those cracks can be a major tool to help decide if the coin is fake or not.
In the pictures, there is no evidence of any cracking of this sort.
I did consider if the rough surface texture may be the result of corrosion, but I felt forced to dismiss that possibility, and instead is most probably the result of casting.
The answer to my own question:
"No, I would not be happy with it."
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DO NOT let any of this news discourage you.
My first love in numismatics is ancient coins.
A good introduction into ancient coins would be to buy an antoninianus of Gorgian 111.
They are made of reasonably good silver, and be bought for a reasonable price from most good coin dealers, or by locating a good example on VCOINS.
If you are based in Indonesia, the VCOINS may well the best place to start.
If a beginner (as we all once were) you need to trust the reputation of the seller.
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Moderator
United States
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@mind57, welcome to CCF--I hope you stick around despite the bad news on this first piece.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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New Member
 Indonesia
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Members of CCF,
thank you.. thank you... thank you for your kindness to reply my post.
Im not really disappointed for myself but just feel sorry for my late father. He got duped by his friend.
But how can I be sure of its authenticity? I dont mean to judge your expertise but just want to find out on my own.
A member told me that the original of this coin would be in 2 figures. Is there a value of a modern replica coin? Or I should just throw it away?
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New Member
Indonesia
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Members of CCF,
How confirm/proof your findings on my coin?
Thank you.
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Valued Member
Australia
205 Posts |
Hi,
It has the signs of being cast. Soapy like details and a rough surface which does not look natural. Particularly the reverse. It does not look like natural wear.
Can you post a photo of the edge of the coin? On the edge can you see either a seam or has the edge been filed (to hide the seam)?
Peter
Edited by greekandromancoins
06/12/2017 06:19 am
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New Member
Indonesia
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Dear members of CCF, I hope this pictures will help you to confirm and proof your findings that my coin is a modern replica coin. Thank you.     |
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Moderator
Australia
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Yes.
It has been ground down flat, presumably to make it fit better into a piece of jewellery, but perhaps also to hide the casting seam.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I keep all of my fake, replica and 'jeweler's copy' coins in a separate 'black' collection, just so I can learn from them, to identify fake coins.
DON'T sell it as genuine, that is obviously dishonest, but it is still worthwhile keeping or giving it to a REPUTABLE coin dealer for his own 'black' collection. Almost all dealers I know of maintain a 'black' collection for their own education.
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Valued Member
Australia
205 Posts |
100% modern forgery, unfortunately.
But what a great lesson and experience in seeing first hand what a fake coin looks like.
Peter
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New Member
Indonesia
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Members of CCF,
Thank you thank you thank you.
GBU all...
Tommy
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Valued Member
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I get good deals on Roman coins from here
I removed the link, there were several coins there IMO that were doubtful.-echizento
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