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New Member
United States
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I sold this coin coin on ebay just a few days ago. The buyer who is obviously more knowledgable than I pegged it as a counterfeit. I'm happy to refund him, I had no idea. It only weighs 11.13 grams vs 12.5. I've uploaded photos. Is this coin worth anything?   |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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If it's a counterfeit ,which I'm sure it is ; why do you think it would be worth something ?  |
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New Member
 United States
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lol, I dont know that's a very good question. Probably my need to be right overcomes my common sense sometimes. Is it just the weight, or something in the photo that makes t look counterfeit?
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Pillar of the Community
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Right, worthless in numismatic value. And if you sell counterfeits without stating it is counterfeit that would be considered fraud whether you know it or not.
Someone may buy it for a dollar or 2 just to have a "comparison" coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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or something in the photo that makes t look counterfeit? On reverse stars are too "pointy" and "S" has no serifs for starters. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2540 Posts |
I would be interested, I have a collection of contemporary fakes.
As is, it is worth about $4 or max $5
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Rest in Peace
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Been noticing lately these Older US large coins (50c/$1...Busts, Barbers, Trades) all have really out of shape stars all over, this one especially as Mark pointed (sic) out. That is where I first look in determining a fake, then the mushiness of the details, fonts. Once you do this a few times it gets a bit easier. Another big question mark is if the coin is in very good condition and raw (?)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Hang on to it - great show piece you'll use many times in your life.  to the CCF! |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Yeah just don't SHOW it to an under cover cop while your asking him if he wants to buy a nice old Half Dollar !  |
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Forum Dad
 United States
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And if you sell counterfeits without stating it is counterfeit that would be considered fraud whether you know it or not. No, that is not true. The main ingredient for fraud to exist is intent. If there is no deliberate intent, there is no fraud. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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And if you sell counterfeits without stating it is counterfeit that would be considered fraud whether you know it or not Bobby , isn't this the same as intent ? ( And if you sell counterfeits ) |
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Forum Dad
United States
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I read it to say that it doesn't matter if the seller knows it's counterfeit or not, it's still fraud. That's just not true.
To prove a seller committed fraud, you would have to prove he knew it was counterfeit.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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And exactly how would you prove intent? Why would a seller of counterfeits not always have a free out? |
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Forum Dad
United States
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I'm just stating facts is all. To prove fraud in a court of law, you must prove intent.
Fraud is a very misunderstood word.
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Posted 06/09/2017 1:25 pm
