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Found this today at a flea market. A Matron Head large cent in basically fair condition. Has some details: stars are ok, ridges around ok, hair towards the back ok. But it doesn't have a date - none, not even a faint ghost of one number, and I've viewed this under a magnifying glass. And I don't see evidence that this was scrubbed or shaved off - the area under the bust where the date should be is not scratched or buffed, its the same as the rest of the coin. The ridges directly under where the date would be are intact. The bottom of the bust/neck is intact - not great but the bottom on the bust is fully visible. Anyone have any idea of what's going on here? This coin does not seem to have a date. I'm a fairly serious collector and wouldn't post this if it I thought the date was just worn off. Obviously that's most likely explanation here, but I've never seen a coin in this condition with just the date worn off but nothing else around it. The effort it would take to perfectly scrub off a date on a coin but not touch anything else would be significant, and what would the point be? - it's just a penny. Here's a pic - tried to show as much detail as possible. I did clean it a bit to try to see what's going on. Any insight would be appreciated, and thanks -  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Rub it on a piece of paper. It will remove excess dirt/grime, possibly revealing the date.
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New Member
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Rubbed with paper:  |
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Rest in Peace
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Next question, what's the weight, same as normal large cent? Could this be a reproduction? How @ reverse, normal, rotated, details? Someone could have taken off date and buffed it even, adding circulation signs...  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Are you holding the coin with metal tongs?
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Pillar of the Community
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Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
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Obverse & reverse pics please. We might be able to tell if there is a discerning feature on the back.
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New Member
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Here's the back and side. Back of the coin is more worn than the front. Coin holds/weights/feels the same as any large cent.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Probably best not to hold coins with metal tweezers, however! Wear, perhaps grease-filled die. |
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United States
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OK, got it. I apologize for holding the coin with tweezers.
Has anyone ever heard of a mint making a coin with no date?
Edited by AlphaBaseOne
06/13/2017 10:15 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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No, I haven't. Looks like either to worn to tell or a Greaser. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Judging by the head, your coin falls between 1836 and 1839. My bet is on a Greaser, but please.....PLEASE.....do not hold your coins with tweezers! I don't want you to ruin your beautiful copper..... Also, |
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Has anyone ever heard of a mint making a coin with no date? Yes, there are a fair number of world coins that don't have dates on them. The only time the US mint did so though was on the one and four "soverign" gold disks made for use paying for oil from Saudia Arabia in 1946 and 47. As coincollector mentions this is the Young head type coronet design from 1835 to 39 and several of the varieties in those years come with weak dates. It wouldn't take much of a die fill or wear to wipe out the date. The Braided hair cents have a similar problem with some varieties in the mid 1850's. |
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Thanks for the insight, folks. :)
Edited by AlphaBaseOne
06/14/2017 10:11 pm
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