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Queen Anne Schilling

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Here is a coin I've had for 25 years I am thinking of having it graded by a TPG. What do you think?

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Hello J74b, and welcome to the forum!


I know little to nothing about these coins so please take my comments as opinion only. Your coin looks beautifully preserved and very well-struck from these photos. The images are too small to allow close inspection of the surfaces and I can't tell if there are hairlines or other signs of abuse. The color looks pretty original, about what I might expect from a 300-year-old silver coin, although the lighter color in the central reverse might be evidence that the coin was dipped to lighten the tone. Lettering is well-formed and the Queen's drapery is only lightly worn. I would guess this coin deserves a "good EF" rating. I would also guess there aren't too many around in such high grade.

Do you have an idea about value?
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The coin was brought in early 80's as a FDC and I would never have given it a thought but I seen same year on DLRC and the strike on this is a bit stronger.
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I would tend to agree with Jaobler's remarks. I have no expertise in grading these, so I won't offer a grade. Surfaces and color look good from the photos provided. Condition looks very nice for 300 years of existence. I don't know what your market is like, but I'd love to have a coin like that in my collection...if I could afford it. LOL

Thanks for sharing.
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I sold off all my English and Canadians coins back in 1983 but I was always partial to this one, and some Mexican Revolutionary Peso's, because of their crude strikings.
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Judgment regarding surfaces must wait for more detailed/larger pictures--however, that coin merits a minimum EF grade. From the looks of it I would be likely to think that it would slab out at AU+. The bust and hair look better-defined than almost any I have seen. Slabbing would make sense for this coin in my opinion.
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I tried taking pictures outside to see if that helps

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From the new pictures I'd say the coin was cleaned at sometime in the past. There appear to be fine, parallel hairline scratches on the obverse (portrait side), and the lighter colored fields (relative to the devises) on the reverse also hint at an old cleaning.

Still a wonderful coin, well struck and with great detail.
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I took coin out of 2x2 and put into flip

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The gold is actually luster,the coin is kind of iridescent
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The last set of photos is obviously the best. Now that the coin is naked I don't see any significant hairlines and the color looks well-balanced. The lack of fine detail in the queen's highest-relief hair locks and drapery look like very light wear, but that could also be slight strike weakness. Iridescent luster is good, of course, and suggests original surfaces.

Maybe it is FDC (fleur de coin) after all! If you decide to have it graded, I would recommend PCGS. Assuming they will grade it (and I see no reason why they would not) it will probably fetch the highest price in a PCGS slab.

I looked on Heritage and was surprised to see that they have sold some examples of the 1708 shilling in uncirculated grades. An NGC coin graded MS-65 sold recently for $862 (including buyer's fee) and a raw "exceptional" BU example went for $1035. Apparently this date is relatively common and somewhat available in unc. It's still a beautiful coin and would be a highlight of a world coin collection.
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If you're gonna sell it, get it slabbed. It will likely add some value to the coin. Otherwise keep the money and buy another coin.
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