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Need Help Asap - Is This Elizabeth I Shilling Real?

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 Posted 06/14/2017  6:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lenver to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help in clarifying that this is real. I am told it is an Elizabeth I, hammered silver shilling circa 1570. Anyone able to confirm?




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 Posted 06/14/2017  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pistareen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to my edition of Spink this would be a fifth issue with hand mintmark from 1590 through 1592 and looks genuine with a decent portrait. It would be Sterling silver from the Tower Mint of London. Value resides with the detail in the portrait. It looks like it may have had environmental damage possibly from a water recovery.
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 Posted 06/14/2017  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lenver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Pistareen. What would be the probable price range for such a coin? I am looking at buying it but don't want to overpay. Also, would it be normal for there to be no date on this particular coin?
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06/14/2017 10:04 pm
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 Posted 06/14/2017  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am reasonably good at picking most fakes with ancient and modern coins, but not much good with hammered coins.

I have a rather convincing Pine Tree Shilling fake, and the only way I can pick it as not genuine, is a rather tiny 'copy' countermarked into it.

I will continue to follow this thread to learn.

Having said all of this, I find the surface texture with this coin a little 'iffy'. I think I understand at least one reason for your doubt. However, I also like the idea of Pistareen's about water recovery.
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 Posted 06/25/2017  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks genuine to me, though a bit worn. In the UK about £100 I'd say. US$125.

Coins apart from the sixpence weren't generally dated. The date of issue is given by the privy mark (in this case a hand). Quite normal.
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06/25/2017 11:20 am
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having some experience in handling hammered coins through metal detecting I can say that I am 100 % sure its genuine
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 Posted 06/25/2017  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lenver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately the owner of the coin ignored my initial offer and further emails so I am presuming they either sold the coin or were looking for a lot more than I was willing to pay. At least I have learned a little about hammered coins from this experience.
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