Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsVancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Hope This Isn't Totally Ridiculous!

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 9 / Views: 1,841Next Topic  
Valued Member
Rmassey210's Avatar
United States
160 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2017  1:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rmassey210 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
OK I found this thing in a big container of coins at an estate sale. I have seen weird old Chinese or similar coins and wondering if this is some unit of money. I don't know what it is made of but it is flexible. It is 5 1/2" H and 2 1/4" W. Thanks, Rob

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!

*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
Rest in Peace
Parklane64's Avatar
United States
2668 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2017  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Uh, Hash money? Or something like that.
Pillar of the Community
Petrus's Avatar
Belgium
2895 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2017  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
remove the lastic before taking pictures please.
you can search this (old) book:
https://www. Dangerous site - not allowed! /s/c6cidiqnu6hpsu4/Catalogue_Chinese_Coins_7thcBC-621AD.pdf?dl=1
edit: please find the link to the catalog here:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic60083.html
It is safe to download

Edited by Petrus
06/17/2017 2:42 pm
Pillar of the Community
Kamnaskires's Avatar
United States
7066 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2017  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not Chinese. It's an example of Pre-Columbian hoe money.
Pillar of the Community
Kamnaskires's Avatar
United States
7066 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2017  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To contribute a bit more info, the OP example is of the Guerrero-Michoacan type of hoe money, and dates c. 1200 - 1520 AD. You'll occasionally see these listed as Aztec money, but they are not. Rather they are likely from the Tarascan or other west Mexico cultures of that period.

Some examples, below.

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!
(treasurenet.com)

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!
(coincoin.com)

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!
(anythinganywhere.com)

Hope-This-Isn't-Totally-Ridiculous!
( ebay)
Valued Member
Alex12780's Avatar
United States
344 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2017  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex12780 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hash money? Pre- Colombian hoe money? What side of coin community did I find myself on?

Cool find for an estate sale though. Btw I don't recommend flexing it
Valued Member
Rmassey210's Avatar
United States
160 Posts
 Posted 06/18/2017  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rmassey210 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, thanks everyone!
Pillar of the Community
antwerpen2306's Avatar
Belgium
1194 Posts
 Posted 06/18/2017  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
first time I see this kind of money . Hoe money , if you say this in Dutch :Hoe money = Hoe geld , it means : what , is this money ? albert
Pillar of the Community
TypeCoin971793's Avatar
United States
6370 Posts
 Posted 06/19/2017  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Bob! I have one of these and had no idea what it was.
Pillar of the Community
Kamnaskires's Avatar
United States
7066 Posts
 Posted 06/19/2017  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I had remembered seeing one of these at a meeting of the local ancient coin club. Somebody had passed around as a show-and-tell. Like the Chinese spades you wrote about recently, Thomas, these are likely derived from actual tools but are far too flimsy (note Rmassey210's comment "...it is flexible") to be anything other than what they are: money.

Some excerpts from "The Hoe Money of Central and South America" by James Martin:

"...archeaologists and numismatists specializing in Mexican coins concur that these hoe, or axe, shaped metal artifacts were used as money...If you review the earliest bronze money of China you can follow the transition of money development from the bronze 'spade,' used as a tool to turn earth and to weed crops, to the proto-coin that was used as money. The proto-coin soon represents a certain standardized weight of metal and can no longer be used as a tool even though it still resembles one. As the transition progresses the money soon looses [sic] all visual relationship to the original tool...In a similar way the hoe money system developed in South America and was quickly adopted in Central America..."
  Previous TopicReplies: 9 / Views: 1,841Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.27 seconds to rattle this change. Forums