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Countermarked 3CS - Anybody Recognize The Initials?

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Or have any ideas?

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hummmm, if you take the point of the star as an "A", then maybe something to do with bowel trouble?




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No idea...

I assume it's a pair of initials. Either ASE & GSE or EAS & EGS.
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I'd guess 2 pair of initials also.
However I'd say they were S.E.G.& S.E.A.
Whoever stamped them took 5 tries on the first letter.Unfamiliar with the process experimentation took over to get the proper amount of hit on the stamp and the proper tilt to the stamp for a good impression.
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Interesting observation Dennman.

I believe you may be correct. That multiple stamped S may well have been the first letter.
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I would venture to say it is a love/marriage/engagement token of some sort with common letter of S or E being last name?

Still like my first guess, do I win a prize? Gotta win sometime...
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nice, I like it
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The counterstamp does not look recent
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Agreed that it's older, the reverse shows clear signs of where the punches were, but evenly worn. The worst is at K1:30 where the four smacks occurred.

Countermarked-3CS---Anybody-Recognize-The-Initials?

With the irregular spacing, it was done with individual letter punches. And the serif on the G is distinctive.

If this were a murder mystery the detective would say the perp was an amateur, "Notice the hesitation marks"

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(These photos are cropped and/or resized from shallow image stacks - 10 images) here is the matching Obverse image:



Countermarked-3CS---Anybody-Recognize-The-Initials?
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Looks like a one-of-a-kind keepsake to me .... quite possibly a love token consisting of counterstamps. The meaning would only make sense to the giver and the recipient. I've not before seen the like of it.

As a denomination, counterstamps on silver trimes are quite scarce. That said, true value is added when the issuer can be established. I don't envision that happening with the subject piece. Still, many folks enjoy a puzzle, even if it's indecipherable.
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According to a quick online search, it could possibly stand for a small Brazilian insurance company, Seaseg Consultoria e Corretora de Seguros, or just off the top of my head, maybe a sort of pun about the ocean, "e.g. seas," since trime sounds like trident or trireme?

Either way, I like it!
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