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Have You Ever Melted Your Coins?

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Were they solid or clad?


They had milk spots.
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Were they solid or clad?

They were clad , a white chocolate planchet plated with milk chocolate ,re; ''the milk spots'' .
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 Posted 06/21/2017  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In Chem classes we always tried doing things with coins. Dissolving them in Acid produced some interesting STUFF. Pennies produced CuSO4 and when allowed to evaporate would make some fantastic Crystals.
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I've never melted a coin. Will never melt a coin either. It's a form of blasphemy.

The only thing I can say to melting coins is I just think of all those Morgans melted under the Pittman Act, or gold coins melted in 1933, or silver coins melted in the 1980's...the horror!
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Never in my brief collecting career - that would violate my hobby philosophy (not an investment).
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I might have tried to melt a cheap common coin in an experiment, but it requires such a complicated setup that I never actually did it.

I did once try putting a coin in Fanta overnight (didn't melt at all, but got a weird orange color), and also once cut a coin in half, to check if it was clad (it was).
[To clarify, I wanted to find out what the new 10 kopek coins were made of, since they were yellow and magnetic and I wasn't aware of a yellow magnetic alloy. At the time, 10 kopek was about $0.003; even less today.]
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When I was in my Freshman chemistry class, I put a clad quarter in nitric or hydrochloric acid (I don't remember) and it dissolved off the copper-nickel outer layers leaving me with a "copper" quarter. Much to my surprise, when I put it in a pinball machine it gave me a credit, but rejected the coin. I must have played 75 or more games with that one quarter until one day it kept it!
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I don't believe many 90% silvers are sent to the smelter, not when they normally carry a premium at sale.
My LCS never has much inventory unless you are there at the right time. They just don't stick around long.
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The melt value as I understand it, is the amount of valuable intrinsic metal plus cost to refine. The less valuable alloys are not considered.
The old rule and reason is for example in simple numbers...

If you have 10 1 troy ounce coins and they 90% silver and 10% copper
and silver spot price is $10.00 an ounce
you can only expect to be paid for 9 troy ounces, or $90.00 and then... wait...
whether they actually get melted or not the buyer will charge a refining fee of 10% ( most times 15% )
So you can expect to lose another 10% selling. You would get $80.00

If you buy on the other hand, you buy the same lot. You will pay for the value of the silver, and have to pay a buyers premium over spot ( usually the same as the refining fee but often less ) and could end up paying $100 for 10 oz of 90% silver coins.

For .999 pure refined silver, there is no refining fee. There is just a similar but smaller premium over spot when buying, and when selling the same goes the other way where you lose a percentage. Nobody trades in precious metals without a profit or loss involved.
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I personally didn't put this cent into acid but I did film it while it floated and the zinc bubbled out of the copper shell.

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