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Pillar of the Community
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I remember reading somewhere that someone had come up with an estimated mintage for the 1922 Lincoln Cent without the D mintmark. Anybody know about this? Do you have the figure? Thanks. |
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There will be quite a controversy over this. I don't see how anyone can figure it out. There is only one true "Plain, No D" and that is on die pair #3 with the strong reverse. There are other die pairs that have what is called "D" or "Weak D". The "No D" on these are nothing more than a very worn COIN, not DIE. Therefore, the premium is on Die pair 3. BUT...the kicker...Die par #3 also produced The D/weak D before the D was polished away. Buying a "No D" coin is VERY risky, most Knowledgable dealers/collectors will see faint traces of the Mintmark on most all coins. Be very, very careful on this one! http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...rieties.htmlEdited by Crazyb0
06/23/2017 2:01 pm
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So the No D would be essentially a small percentage of the total 7.1mil that were minted?
A math equation of the number of dies might indicate a # around 500,000? That are true No D? And another 1milion that are "weak D"?
Perhaps my numbers are all off though?....
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This might be a good place for me to ask a somewhat related question that has made me curious. If PCGS labels a coin "1922 No D,Strong Reverse," does that imply that it is Die Pair 3, or are there other permutations that would result in the same label?
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Bedrock of the Community
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No, that implies Die Pair #2, which is the strong reverse. Die Pairs #1 and #3 have weak reverses.
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Coinfrog is correct. It's die #2 with strong reverse that is the only die pair accepted as producing the No-D. Die sets 1,3, & 4 were all weak D, weak reverse, or strong D, weak reverse. Of course earlier die states of those three may produce a somewhat strong reverse, but there are a number of attributes on both obverse and reverse that allow for correct identification. Sometimes though, it can be difficult to verify, especially in web-based photos.
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Bedrock of the Community
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This comes up a lot about the famous 22 Lincoln Cent. It is all rather nicely explained in a book called Looking Through Lincoln Cents by Charles Daughtrey, pages 93 and 94. Quote:
Die sets 1,3, & 4 were all weak D, No such thing as 4. And as far as how many. No one really knows. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I do not know of a Die Pair #4 either. Another good discussion and pics can be found in Wexler and Flynn's "Authoritative Reference on Lincoln Cents", second edition.
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This is from http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...rieties.htmlQuote:
All 1922 weak D or No D coins fall into one of 7 categories:
1. Die Pair #1 Weak D (Weak Reverse)
2. Die Pair #1 No D (Weak Reverse)
3. Die Pair #2 No D (Strong Reverse) also called 1922 Plain
4. Die Pair #3 Weak D (Weak Reverse)
5. Die Pair #3 No D (Weak Reverse)
6. Die Pair #4 Weak D (Weak Reverse)
7. Die Pair #4 No D (Weak Reverse) Just about everything I know about the No D is on that site. If some/all/most of the imformation is incorrect, please let me/us know. Edited by Beefer518
06/23/2017 7:58 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for that indeed! I'm still going by images I learned 30 years ago.
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Pillar of the Community
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I did some looking around, and it seems there are two camps - one acknowledges 3 die pairs, the other, 4. So who really knows.
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