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 ,well put Chase007 |
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Since you have a pretty good handle on your coins & you know what they are, are you going to send them off and have them authenticated and graded? That seems like the most logical thing to do instead of acting like a jack rabbit & insulting fellow members. Being rude will get you absolutely nothing in return Quote:
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so if you had actually LOOKED at the photo then you would see it as well as clear as Day because it was a HUGE BIG BALL sitting there right infront of your screen and it wouldnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that that big melting ball could actually RUN downwards if it was melting don't you think .... But again don't take my word for it . Review the photos . And lets hope that that that light switch clicks on Edited by jasper62
06/25/2017 1:46 pm
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And lets hope that that that light switch clicks on Yes, let's hope.  |
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Well thanks all for the wonderful opinions ... And believe me there is no hard feelings here . I am simply seeking accurate information regarding the unique finds that I shared so please excuse my catchy replies if it has offended any adults in the coin community because that is not my purpose for posting them. In fact... I love learning new things and I do enjoy sharing my new discoveries with people who have knowledge on the Rockwell hardness test subject and the speared bison / Lincoln coin subject . Just Like the comment made by Mr Adam_E who informed me that the Rock solid matter on the pillar in my photo was most likely a gas bubble and that I could probably squash it if I poked it with a tooth pick. But again please do forgive me if I evaluate some of these responses with a ? because it is not intended to offend anyone either and I clearly need to feel our experts out . Infact now that I think about it I'm absolutely positive that there are probably Tons of other experts of this kind in the coin community so I welcome those opinions as well . But hey in the mean time if anyone on here has absolutely any photos depicting or supporting their professional opinions on these subjects at hand then I would greatly and graciously appreciate them and I'm looking forward to my new learning experience  ... (No pun intended . )  |
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Hardfinds80, I'm not one that will banter. Opinions are formed based by the current images and information provided. My judgment is based on what I see as I don't have the convenience of holding the coin in hand. It either is or it isn't from my perspective. Take it for what its worth (free advice) or provide me more to go on. The 2008-D cent seems to be a plating issue. Could be wrong. Close up may prove otherwise. The 2005-D Buffalo is not posted. So see no reason to reference anything to it at this time. The reference to an 1960 cent example of a Rockwell Hardness Test seems to be a die chip. It seems to be raised in your images or are you saying it is incused? As previously mentioned a quick search in this forum will shed more info on the Rockwell Hardness Test subject matter. See some info in link(s) below. Thanks, Doug. http://goccf.com/t/237597http://goccf.com/t/248500Edited by Halo1st
06/25/2017 10:23 pm
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Hardfinds80,  to the CCF If you actually read AdamE's post He said your 2008 D was possibly a gas bubble ,To which I agree, |
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Well thank you for the welcome oldmike and I won't disagree with the gas bubble or whatever it is . But the only reason for posting that photo was because it has a image of a spear going through lincolns chest just like the "spear" that is going through the bisons body on the 2005-D Buffalo nickles which is a sought after gas bubble coin I guess. LOL ... And to Halo1st what I am saying is that the image of my 1960 Lincoln coin had a " Raised " ball at the very top of the pillar just like the one pictured in " figure 1 " of the Rockwell Test photo that I posted ... And then at some point it looks like the the ball eventually rolled down the pillar and as it left a trail it completely harden . So is that explaining it well enough and are the pictures that I posted too blurry on your end ? Seriously I'm not trying to be funny here . But I'm starting to think that maybe the pictures are too blurry or something because they're not hard to see at all from my end  |
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Since no image has been posted to compare, here is your cent compared to the 2004 "speared" bison nickel:  As has been said, the "speared" bison nickel is a die gouge, not a plating bubble. Nickels are not plated and, therefore, cannot have plating bubbles. Your cent on the other hand, is plated and a linear plating bubble is possible/common. It could also be a die gouge like the nickel but faint lines above the bubble in your pic running in the same direction suggest a plating issue and not a singular die gouge. Concerning the Rockwell Test cent, I made a comparison of the pics you posted:  In this case, your coin shows none of the characteristics of the verified example. However, if the die had been subjected to the test, then it would create a raised area on a coin similar to the incuse area of the example coin pictured (a tested planchet, not die). The hardness test does not involve melting metal so there is no way anything could flow downward and become a distorted shape like what is on your coin. The cent you have shows the characteristics of a die chip or die break (depending on how large it is). They are not rare to find on the Memorial bays and columns. One of the links already provided had this link in it that you should check out regarding the Rockwell Test: http://www.error-ref.com/?s=rockwellI hope this clears some things up.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Well now we're getting somewhere ... And I must admit that that was well put Mr. spruett001 . Infact it sounds like you really know a thing or two about the subject my friend are not simply trying to respond based off huge ego like some other people I've run across . So I do greatly appreciate the input . But anyway my last question for this topic is ... If the SPEAR shape that is going through lincolns chest is merely a gas bubble of some form then shouldn't I be able to simply sqaush it with something like Adam_E had mentioned earlier because I cant ? And also no matter how hard I've looked on the internet I haven't been able to find anything anywhere like these two " Errors " not the raised melted blob that is running down the pillar nor a image of a spear going through lincolns chest have you ?
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P.s. By the way . Please send me "any" examples of these two types of errors if you can because they are truly welcomed .
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Here are a couple of cents that I've found. This one is "speared" by a strong linear plating bubble. Notice the other parallel lines progressing from the most prominent one and how the lines continue over the bust. That indicates a plating issue:  Here's a die gouge I found (1999-D). Note that the gouge stops abruptly at the steps and does not continue onto the Memorial. There are also no other lines parallel to give the impression of a plating problem:  I will emphasize again that nickels cannot have plating problems because they are not plated. Your 2008 cent may have a die gouge but, plating defects have to be taken into account as they occur much more frequently than die defects (e.g. gouges). I also have questions. What is the mintmark of the 1960 cent you posted concerning the Rockwell Test? Can you post full pics of both sides of it while avoiding taking pictures of another screen that's displaying the image? That really distorts things. Thanks! In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Excuse all the extra photos I don't know what happened there ... And try to bare with me because I'm still getting the hang of this . But anyway I'm still very pumped about the doubling on the reverse... And I hope that it's visible enough in the pictures because I have a crappy camera on this phone but I think you should still be able to see them . oh and I meant the letter " you " not you something else went wrong there too I think . |
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I believe the last pillar on the other end has doubling there too ... This coin is absolutely crazy because it has so much going on with it !
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not a DDO , not even md. just a regular coin with a die chip on the reverse. |
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